Desaturation

Tony Cooper:
Sometimes bright colors add to a photograph, but there are times when
they dominate the image to the detriment of the image. I liked this
image of the girl in the red hat, but the red seemed to just take over
the image. Looking back over some old images, I decided to see what
it would look like desaturated but not to the point of being a
monochrome.

Here's both the original (2015-01-06-9A) and the desaturated version
(2015-01-06-9B).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

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Tony Cooper:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Davoud:
Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

Tony Cooper:
That was the intent. I wanted the lost waif look. In actuality, the
little girl was on her daddy's shoulder watching a Chinese New Year
parade, and quite happy. I just caught her looking solemn.

I consider different processing techniques as experimental, and was
looking for a photo in my files that would make a good subject for
this particular semi-desaturation style.

Success.

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On 8/25/2016 4:37 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:16:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Tony Cooper:
Sometimes bright colors add to a photograph, but there are times when
they dominate the image to the detriment of the image. I liked this
image of the girl in the red hat, but the red seemed to just take over
the image. Looking back over some old images, I decided to see what
it would look like desaturated but not to the point of being a
monochrome.

Here's both the original (2015-01-06-9A) and the desaturated version
(2015-01-06-9B).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

That was the intent. I wanted the lost waif look. In actuality, the
little girl was on her daddy's shoulder watching a Chinese New Year
parade, and quite happy. I just caught her looking solemn.

I consider different processing techniques as experimental, and was
looking for a photo in my files that would make a good subject for
this particular semi-desaturation style.


is that not counter to street?



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PeterN

On 8/26/2016 2:00 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:36:07 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/25/2016 4:37 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:16:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Tony Cooper:
Sometimes bright colors add to a photograph, but there are times when
they dominate the image to the detriment of the image. I liked this
image of the girl in the red hat, but the red seemed to just take over
the image. Looking back over some old images, I decided to see what
it would look like desaturated but not to the point of being a
monochrome.

Here's both the original (2015-01-06-9A) and the desaturated version
(2015-01-06-9B).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

That was the intent. I wanted the lost waif look. In actuality, the
little girl was on her daddy's shoulder watching a Chinese New Year
parade, and quite happy. I just caught her looking solemn.

I consider different processing techniques as experimental, and was
looking for a photo in my files that would make a good subject for
this particular semi-desaturation style.


is that not counter to street?

Street photography, to the purists, means that the scene presented is
the scene as it was seen. However, it's perfectly legitimate to
render that scene in black and white or to increase/decrease contrast,
saturation, or other color effects to some extent. The important
thing is that any post-processing manipulation does not add or remove
elements that were in the scene.

This was not presented as "street", though.


OK.

I understand bright highly saturated red is a Chinese thing. When the
color desaturation significantly changes the mood of the subject, I
would think it is no longer street.


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PeterN

On 8/26/2016 4:29 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:50:26 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/26/2016 2:00 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:36:07 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/25/2016 4:37 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:16:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Tony Cooper:
Sometimes bright colors add to a photograph, but there are times when
they dominate the image to the detriment of the image. I liked this
image of the girl in the red hat, but the red seemed to just take over
the image. Looking back over some old images, I decided to see what
it would look like desaturated but not to the point of being a
monochrome.

Here's both the original (2015-01-06-9A) and the desaturated version
(2015-01-06-9B).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

That was the intent. I wanted the lost waif look. In actuality, the
little girl was on her daddy's shoulder watching a Chinese New Year
parade, and quite happy. I just caught her looking solemn.

I consider different processing techniques as experimental, and was
looking for a photo in my files that would make a good subject for
this particular semi-desaturation style.


is that not counter to street?

Street photography, to the purists, means that the scene presented is
the scene as it was seen. However, it's perfectly legitimate to
render that scene in black and white or to increase/decrease contrast,
saturation, or other color effects to some extent. The important
thing is that any post-processing manipulation does not add or remove
elements that were in the scene.

This was not presented as "street", though.


OK.

I understand bright highly saturated red is a Chinese thing. When the
color desaturation significantly changes the mood of the subject, I
would think it is no longer street.

I made a mistake when I identified this as taken at a Chinese New Year
parade. It was taken at an Epiphany event - where they dive for the
cross - in Tarpon Springs FL. Got my parades mixed up since I looked
for an image with a mass of color and didn't look at the sequence.

She's Greek, and the Greeks like red.

I cannot say whether or not red is as embedded in Greek culture, to the
extent that it is a part of the Chinese culture. Perhaps someone here
can respond. However that is irrelevant t my point.

When the character of the subject is changed, through any process, the
image is no longer street. That is not a bad thing. Indeed i am happy to
see you trying interpretative photography.


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PeterN

On 8/26/2016 8:05 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 19:36:26 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/26/2016 4:29 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:50:26 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/26/2016 2:00 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:36:07 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/25/2016 4:37 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:16:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Tony Cooper:
Sometimes bright colors add to a photograph, but there are times when
they dominate the image to the detriment of the image. I liked this
image of the girl in the red hat, but the red seemed to just take over
the image. Looking back over some old images, I decided to see what
it would look like desaturated but not to the point of being a
monochrome.

Here's both the original (2015-01-06-9A) and the desaturated version
(2015-01-06-9B).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abn35vcs3...wqKopO-ua?dl=0

Very different photos, each very nice in its way. To *my* eye the
desaturated version has a bit of a war-orphan look.

That was the intent. I wanted the lost waif look. In actuality, the
little girl was on her daddy's shoulder watching a Chinese New Year
parade, and quite happy. I just caught her looking solemn.

I consider different processing techniques as experimental, and was
looking for a photo in my files that would make a good subject for
this particular semi-desaturation style.


is that not counter to street?

Street photography, to the purists, means that the scene presented is
the scene as it was seen. However, it's perfectly legitimate to
render that scene in black and white or to increase/decrease contrast,
saturation, or other color effects to some extent. The important
thing is that any post-processing manipulation does not add or remove
elements that were in the scene.

This was not presented as "street", though.


OK.

I understand bright highly saturated red is a Chinese thing. When the
color desaturation significantly changes the mood of the subject, I
would think it is no longer street.

I made a mistake when I identified this as taken at a Chinese New Year
parade. It was taken at an Epiphany event - where they dive for the
cross - in Tarpon Springs FL. Got my parades mixed up since I looked
for an image with a mass of color and didn't look at the sequence.

She's Greek, and the Greeks like red.

I cannot say whether or not red is as embedded in Greek culture, to the
extent that it is a part of the Chinese culture. Perhaps someone here
can respond. However that is irrelevant t my point.

When the character of the subject is changed, through any process, the
image is no longer street. That is not a bad thing. Indeed i am happy to
see you trying interpretative photography.

Need I repeat: This was not presented as "street", though.

Never said it was. Indeed I noted that you are doing other than street.


I'm not fully in agreement with you, though. Go to one of the street
fora and most shots are black and white. That changes the character
of the subject.

Not always. Monochrome can replicate the mood and character of the
subject, when properly done.
You and I can see the same image, and take the shot. While each of our
images may be different, if both accurately replicate what each of us
felt when taking the shot, both will be street.

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PeterN