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Old March 11th 14, 06:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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Blog:
http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Den_Perfekta_Semesterkameran?lang=en


We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida that's
worth doing.

Last time we were there (2011) I choose not to bring my "big" camera,
which at the time was a Nikon D3s, but we brought my wife's Nikon D80.
The D80 is a really nice camera, but it has a couple of years under
the belt and fails miserably in low light. Florida is usually pretty
bright, of course, but at night and indoors it proved less than
satisfactory.

Plus, the D80 is still rather big, even if it's a lot smaller than the
D3s and my ciurrect D4.

So, what camera should I bring this time? I suppose I won't be able to
manage without a proper SLR, so I'll bring my D800E which is bigger
than the D80 but smaller than the D4. But I wouldn't want to lug
around the D800 inside Disney World, so I'm pretty excited to bring
along the Sony RX1R as my first vacation non-SLR as my everyday
in-the-moment camera. It's tiny, versatile and performs like a champ
in low light. I have great expectations. Sure, I can't zoom with it,
but most of the time, I have a prime 50mm on my SLR when on vacation
anyway.

So, a prime 35mm lens is rather limiting, which is why I'll bring
along my D800 as well, only not into the parks.

The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My 50mm
is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in Florida.
Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to speak, but we
only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa Bay has some really
scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps, and then maybe the
24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had brought a lens I did not.
But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover most occasions.



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Old March 11th 14, 09:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2014-03-11 06:22:13 +0000, Sandman said:

Blog:
http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Den_Perfekta_Semesterkameran?lang=en


We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida that's
worth doing.

Last time we were there (2011) I choose not to bring my "big" camera,
which at the time was a Nikon D3s, but we brought my wife's Nikon D80.
The D80 is a really nice camera, but it has a couple of years under
the belt and fails miserably in low light. Florida is usually pretty
bright, of course, but at night and indoors it proved less than
satisfactory.

Plus, the D80 is still rather big, even if it's a lot smaller than the
D3s and my ciurrect D4.

So, what camera should I bring this time? I suppose I won't be able to
manage without a proper SLR, so I'll bring my D800E which is bigger
than the D80 but smaller than the D4. But I wouldn't want to lug
around the D800 inside Disney World, so I'm pretty excited to bring
along the Sony RX1R as my first vacation non-SLR as my everyday
in-the-moment camera. It's tiny, versatile and performs like a champ
in low light. I have great expectations. Sure, I can't zoom with it,
but most of the time, I have a prime 50mm on my SLR when on vacation
anyway.

So, a prime 35mm lens is rather limiting, which is why I'll bring
along my D800 as well, only not into the parks.

The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My 50mm
is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in Florida.
Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to speak, but we
only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa Bay has some really
scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps, and then maybe the
24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had brought a lens I did not.
But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover most occasions.




You can rent cameras, fat lenses and other accessories once you get to
florida. That way you don't have to weigh yourself down on your
Sweden-USA flights with fat glass.
Try LensProToGo to set the rental up for a delivery to your Florida
hotel. They start with 4 day rentals.
https://www.lensprotogo.com

Hell! They will even rent you that Fuji X-Pro1 and a bunch of lenses.

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Old March 11th 14, 09:47 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2014-03-11 09:12:37 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-03-11 06:22:13 +0000, Sandman said:

Blog:
http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Den_Perfekta_Semesterkameran?lang=en


We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida that's
worth doing.

Last time we were there (2011) I choose not to bring my "big" camera,
which at the time was a Nikon D3s, but we brought my wife's Nikon D80.
The D80 is a really nice camera, but it has a couple of years under
the belt and fails miserably in low light. Florida is usually pretty
bright, of course, but at night and indoors it proved less than
satisfactory.

Plus, the D80 is still rather big, even if it's a lot smaller than the
D3s and my ciurrect D4.

So, what camera should I bring this time? I suppose I won't be able to
manage without a proper SLR, so I'll bring my D800E which is bigger
than the D80 but smaller than the D4. But I wouldn't want to lug
around the D800 inside Disney World, so I'm pretty excited to bring
along the Sony RX1R as my first vacation non-SLR as my everyday
in-the-moment camera. It's tiny, versatile and performs like a champ
in low light. I have great expectations. Sure, I can't zoom with it,
but most of the time, I have a prime 50mm on my SLR when on vacation
anyway.

So, a prime 35mm lens is rather limiting, which is why I'll bring
along my D800 as well, only not into the parks.

The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My 50mm
is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in Florida.
Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to speak, but we
only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa Bay has some really
scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps, and then maybe the
24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had brought a lens I did not.
But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover most occasions.




You can rent cameras, fat lenses and other accessories once you get to
florida. That way you don't have to weigh yourself down on your
Sweden-USA flights with fat glass.
Try LensProToGo to set the rental up for a delivery to your Florida
hotel. They start with 4 day rentals.
https://www.lensprotogo.com

Hell! They will even rent you that Fuji X-Pro1 and a bunch of lenses.


BTW: I am generally not a great fan of Florida flatness, I have a
fondness of the western mountains and National Parks. There is also
plenty to see in the East. One suggestion is a visit to the Smithsonian
AeroSpace Museum in Washington. It is well worthwhile.
However, since you will be in the Orlando area, perhaps you and Tony
might consider a face-to-face chat.
;-)

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Regards,

Savageduck

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Old March 11th 14, 10:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 11/03/2014 06:22, Sandman wrote:
[]
We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida that's
worth doing.

[]
The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My 50mm
is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in Florida.
Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to speak, but we
only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa Bay has some really
scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps, and then maybe the
24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had brought a lens I did not.
But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover most occasions.


For me, a DX format such as the D5200/D5300, allow the ISO to creep up
to 1600/3200, and an 18-200 mm zoom makes a very handy travelling
companion. Take the compact 35/1.8 if you feel the need for low-light
photos. Much less weight and bulk than a D800.

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David
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Old March 11th 14, 02:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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In article 201403110212377533-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote:

You can rent cameras, fat lenses and other accessories once you get
to florida. That way you don't have to weigh yourself down on your
Sweden-USA flights with fat glass. Try LensProToGo to set the rental
up for a delivery to your Florida hotel. They start with 4 day
rentals. https://www.lensprotogo.com


Huh, I didn't know that. Well, I assumed lens rental was available in
Florida as well, but delivery to the hotel is pretty nifty.

A 70-200/2.8 and a 24-70/2.8 comes to $325 for the trip, so I'm not sure
the economics are really all that good.


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Old March 11th 14, 02:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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Default The perfect vacation camera?

In article 2014031102475397865-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote:

Savageduck:
You can rent cameras, fat lenses and other accessories once you
get to florida. That way you don't have to weigh yourself down on
your Sweden-USA flights with fat glass. Try LensProToGo to set the
rental up for a delivery to your Florida hotel. They start with 4
day rentals. https://www.lensprotogo.com


Hell! They will even rent you that Fuji X-Pro1 and a bunch of
lenses.


BTW: I am generally not a great fan of Florida flatness, I have a
fondness of the western mountains and National Parks. There is also
plenty to see in the East. One suggestion is a visit to the
Smithsonian AeroSpace Museum in Washington. It is well worthwhile.
However, since you will be in the Orlando area, perhaps you and Tony
might consider a face-to-face chat. ;-)


He would probably end up with a bleeding nose, so I don't think he would
suggest that


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Old March 11th 14, 02:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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In article , David Taylor wrote:

Sandman:
We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida
that's worth doing.


Sandman:
The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My
50mm is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in
Florida. Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to
speak, but we only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa
Bay has some really scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps,
and then maybe the 24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had
brought a lens I did not. But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover
most occasions.


For me, a DX format such as the D5200/D5300, allow the ISO to creep
up to 1600/3200, and an 18-200 mm zoom makes a very handy travelling
companion. Take the compact 35/1.8 if you feel the need for
low-light photos. Much less weight and bulk than a D800.


Huh, you snipped the part where I talked about bringing the Sony RX1R due
to it being compact and performs really good in low-light. Anyway, that's
why I'll bring it. The DSLR will follow along to be used when compactness
isn't of a specific concern.


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Old March 11th 14, 02:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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In article , Tony Cooper wrote:

Sandman:
Blog:
http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Den_Perfekta_Semesterkameran?lang=en


We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida
that's worth doing.


The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My
50mm is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in
Florida. Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to
speak, but we only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa
Bay has some really scenic parts.


What camera, and which lenses, depend on what you are interested in
photographing.


A typical vacationing person with a family in tow is mostly going to
photograph family members in a particular setting like a child on a
ride at Disney. Most of these family shots can done well enough
with any camera from a point-and-shoot on up. The intent will be to
capture memories, not art.


Personally, I would not take a dslr to Disney or any theme park. It
will be hot and humid, and you'll spend a lot of time in lines. The
heat and humidity will be more noticeable to a person that is not
used to it. Bulky cameras are a pain to take on rides and
uncomfortable hanging around the neck all day. I'd take my pocket
camera.


Uh... You also snipped out the part of my post where I talked specifically
about not wanting to bring my huge SLR into the parks and thus bringing my
Sony RX1R for that very purpose. It is compact, great in low light (i.e.
inside rides/buildings) and very very versatile.

You might consider bringing a basic lens and renting any other lens
you discover you have a need for. Check out the Lens Depot at:
http://www.thelensdepot.com/ Many of my fellow camera club members
use them, and have found them to be an excellent company to deal
with. They have locations in Orlando and Tampa, and they'll ship to
your hotel if necessary.


Savageduck also suggested this, but the prices are really high for
something I already own. Not sure the high price justifies the saved weight
in luggage.




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Old March 11th 14, 02:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Hi,

It is all a matter of taste. I used to lug 13 pounds (6 kilo) of camera
bodies, lenses, etc. on my shoulder, and walked like the leaning tower
of Pisa. I currently use a Canon S-120, a small camera that fits into a
jacket pocket. It has a sharp 5:1 optical zoom lens, which is f:2 at the
wide end, a sharp viewing screen, a (small) built-in flash, and many
possible settings from fully automatic to mostly manual. I can make
sharp 8x10" prints readily, even from cropped images. I get reasonably
good pix at ISO 1600 when necessary.It gets about 300 images per battery
charge, and I carry a spare fully charged battery in my pocket. Also,
people seem less wary of being photographed by such a pocket camera,
than they are with a big SLR.

In any event, have a nice trip, albeit most of the "beauty" in your
target area is of the Disney variety.

Mort Linder


Sandman wrote:
Blog:
http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Den_Perfekta_Semesterkameran?lang=en


We'll soon be going to America for two weeks and we'll be visiting
Disney World, Tampa Bay and whatever else you can do in Florida that's
worth doing.

Last time we were there (2011) I choose not to bring my "big" camera,
which at the time was a Nikon D3s, but we brought my wife's Nikon D80.
The D80 is a really nice camera, but it has a couple of years under
the belt and fails miserably in low light. Florida is usually pretty
bright, of course, but at night and indoors it proved less than
satisfactory.

Plus, the D80 is still rather big, even if it's a lot smaller than the
D3s and my ciurrect D4.

So, what camera should I bring this time? I suppose I won't be able to
manage without a proper SLR, so I'll bring my D800E which is bigger
than the D80 but smaller than the D4. But I wouldn't want to lug
around the D800 inside Disney World, so I'm pretty excited to bring
along the Sony RX1R as my first vacation non-SLR as my everyday
in-the-moment camera. It's tiny, versatile and performs like a champ
in low light. I have great expectations. Sure, I can't zoom with it,
but most of the time, I have a prime 50mm on my SLR when on vacation
anyway.

So, a prime 35mm lens is rather limiting, which is why I'll bring
along my D800 as well, only not into the parks.

The question is, however, what lenses to bring with the D800. My 50mm
is a given, but I'm a bit unsure about what to photograph in Florida.
Last time we were there, it was rather "barren" so to speak, but we
only moved in the Orlando area. I'm guessing Tampa Bay has some really
scenic parts. So a 70-200/2.8 swell perhaps, and then maybe the
24-70/2.8? I hate being there wishing I had brought a lens I did not.
But 24-70, 70-200 and 50 should cover most occasions.





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Old March 11th 14, 02:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 11/03/2014 14:18, Sandman wrote:
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Huh, you snipped the part where I talked about bringing the Sony RX1R due
to it being compact and performs really good in low-light. Anyway, that's
why I'll bring it. The DSLR will follow along to be used when compactness
isn't of a specific concern.


Yes, that looks good for low-light situations, but if I was restricted
to a fixed 35 mm focal length I could use my iPad or Android phone.
$2700+ for a snapshot camera - albeit a a quality snapshot camera - is
way outside my budget.

As a photographic challenge, why not see what you can do with your
tablet or smart-phone instead?

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David
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