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upgrdading from fuji sensia 100 => ???
Hello,
As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they have finer grain, don't they ?). Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable advice ... 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the (neutral) color-balance is concerned. 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue cast ? 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my question about underexposing Velvia ... Thx, Philippe |
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"Philippe Lauwers" wrote: Hello, As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they have finer grain, don't they ?). Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable advice ... 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the (neutral) color-balance is concerned. 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue cast ? 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my question about underexposing Velvia ... Thx, Philippe Philippe; Sensia, is essentially Provia. The difference being the batch to batch consistancy of Provia and Provia is also supposed to be kept refrigerated when you buy it. I know pro's that shoot Sensia instead of Provia because they shoot 35mm. I would do the same. Sensia is not available in medium and large format films which I shoot. Velvia 100F is slightly different than Provia the grain structure of Velvia 100F could be a benefit for 35mm , but the balance and saturation of 100F are no better or worse than Provia. Velvia 50 is the saturated film people talk of and has very tight grain. Basically to get consistant balance you must use a prolab, the same lab on a regular basis....and even then its debatable imop. You really have to test and determine this for your own circumstances where you want to be for exposing the the film. -- LF website http://members.bellatlantic.net/~gblank |
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"Philippe Lauwers" wrote in message ...
Hello, As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they have finer grain, don't they ?). Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable advice ... 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the (neutral) color-balance is concerned. 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue cast ? 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my question about underexposing Velvia ... Thx, Philippe Kodachrome 64 Professional. I would not even consider taking anything else. |
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"Philippe Lauwers" wrote in
: Hello, As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they have finer grain, don't they ?). Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable advice ... 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the (neutral) color-balance is concerned. 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue cast ? 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my question about underexposing Velvia ... Thx, Philippe Fuji Astia (now called Astia 100F) Finer grain, perfectly neutral. Essentially, professional Sensia. |
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upgrdading from fuji sensia 100 => ???
No offense but since you don't have time to do a reasonable amount of film
testing before leaving I would suggest that you stick with the film that you are familiar with. Philippe Lauwers wrote: : Hello, : As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've : been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they : have finer grain, don't they ?). : Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have : time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable : advice ... : 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the : (neutral) color-balance is concerned. : 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it : possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a : Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue : cast ? : 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course : I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my : question about underexposing Velvia ... : Thx, : Philippe -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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upgrdading from fuji sensia 100 => ???
I'll second that!! If you don't have time to thoroughly test a new film
before a (for me anyway) once in a lifetime trip, you'd be taking an enormous risk to use anything but what you already know and understand. (Better the devil you know.) The color palettes of all three are similar, Velvia is more contrasty.As far as grain, ALL modern ISO 100 color slide films are pretty darn good, much better than anything available even a few years ago. ON the other hand, if you get to Morocco every few weeks (grin) shoot a different type of film each time you go. -- darkroommike ---------- "Frank Pittel" wrote in message ... No offense but since you don't have time to do a reasonable amount of film testing before leaving I would suggest that you stick with the film that you are familiar with. Philippe Lauwers wrote: : Hello, : As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've : been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they : have finer grain, don't they ?). : Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have : time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable : advice ... : 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the : (neutral) color-balance is concerned. : 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it : possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a : Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue : cast ? : 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course : I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my : question about underexposing Velvia ... : Thx, : Philippe -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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upgrdading from fuji sensia 100 => ???
Well, I think I haven't been telling you guys everything : I aim to make
ilfochrome prints of my best pictures (probably 12*16). That's why I want the finest grain possible (with a film that I can use @ 100 ISO). I've been doing a batch of 12*16 prints from TMX negatives last year, and I have a feeling that any more grain wouldn't be desirable. It wouldn't be impossible to do any testing at all, it's just that I don't have the time to test 10 different emulsions. I was hoping to get to one suggestion, and to shoot the same pictures on both a roll of Sensia, and the other film (I have two SLR's, so that's something I could easily do in a day or two). As far as testing is concerned, can anyone give me some tips on what kind of pictures to shoot. Please don't say I have to shoot the same kind of pictures I plan to shoot in Morocco, since I don't know what to excpect there. So I might even end up going there every few weeks after all ;-) "Mike King" schreef in bericht ... I'll second that!! If you don't have time to thoroughly test a new film before a (for me anyway) once in a lifetime trip, you'd be taking an enormous risk to use anything but what you already know and understand. (Better the devil you know.) The color palettes of all three are similar, Velvia is more contrasty.As far as grain, ALL modern ISO 100 color slide films are pretty darn good, much better than anything available even a few years ago. ON the other hand, if you get to Morocco every few weeks (grin) shoot a different type of film each time you go. -- darkroommike ---------- "Frank Pittel" wrote in message ... No offense but since you don't have time to do a reasonable amount of film testing before leaving I would suggest that you stick with the film that you are familiar with. Philippe Lauwers wrote: : Hello, : As a (35 mm) slide-film, up to now I've been using Fuji Sensia 100, and I've : been thinking about an upgrade to Velvia 100F, of maybe Provia 100F(they : have finer grain, don't they ?). : Since I'm leaving to Morroco for a two-week trip next week, I don't have : time to do a lot of testing so I hope someone can give me some valuable : advice ... : 1. Which 'professional' film comes closest to Sensia, as far as the : (neutral) color-balance is concerned. : 2. I've read that Velvia yields much more saturated colors; is it : possible to obtain slightly less saturated colors (for instance) by rating a : Velvia 100F @ 120 ISO instead of 100 ISO, or will I only get a slight blue : cast ? : 3. Other suggestions are welcome too, of course : I've heard horrible stories about the pricing of the Provia films, hence my : question about underexposing Velvia ... : Thx, : Philippe -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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upgrdading from fuji sensia 100 => ???
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"Philippe Lauwers" wrote: Well, I think I haven't been telling you guys everything : I aim to make ilfochrome prints of my best pictures (probably 12*16). That's why I want the finest grain possible (with a film that I can use @ 100 ISO). I've been doing a batch of 12*16 prints from TMX negatives last year, and I have a feeling that any more grain wouldn't be desirable. It wouldn't be impossible to do any testing at all, it's just that I don't have the time to test 10 different emulsions. I was hoping to get to one suggestion, and to shoot the same pictures on both a roll of Sensia, and the other film (I have two SLR's, so that's something I could easily do in a day or two). As far as testing is concerned, can anyone give me some tips on what kind of pictures to shoot. Please don't say I have to shoot the same kind of pictures I plan to shoot in Morocco, since I don't know what to excpect there. So I might even end up going there every few weeks after all ;-) You want something with a grey card so you can evaluate the color balance, maybe a scene near a beach under the time of day you typicall shoot, a parking lot may also work... or other paved surface which would be "like" a desert area. The Kodak E films have very tight T Grain, for enlarging. E 100VS is very saturated. I would at least try that and possibly Fuji Astia for lower contrast, but nice saturation....just a couple added thoughts. -- LF website http://members.bellatlantic.net/~gblank |
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