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bluring a messy background?
John Navas wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:46:48 -0800, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : John Navas wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:01:18 -0800, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : John Navas wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:09:28 -0800, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : Dave Cohen wrote: I don't use PhotoShop, but the method is rather generic. Keep the term *generic* in mind. This is not, was it was explicitly stated, a PhotoShop method, nor specific to any particular editor. The OP asked for a method in Photoshop Elements. This will blow you mind John, but the OP is not the only person who will read what was in that article. Likewise the OP may not always be using that same software. Not to worry -- my mind still seems to be pretty much the same (for better or for worse). I personally think it's not terribly helpful to suggest a solution that's not responsive to the original question, but then I'm guessing you weren't paying all that much attention to the original question ... hmmm? "Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!" Did you by any chance notice that my article actually was useful, and the video you recommended was not? Once again we'll have to agree to disagree. [gasp!] What I actually posted was a number of different responsive solutions. It may be helpful, John, to know that Floyd has never been wrong in the photo NGs.... -- john mcwilliams |
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bluring a messy background?
On 2009-06-10 08:13:08 -0700, C J Campbell
said: On 2009-06-09 07:26:08 -0700, Brian said: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Regards Brian Create a new layer and use Gaussian blur to blur the entire picture to what you want. Then use the History brush to paint back the portions you want sharp. Actually CJ, that seems to be a pretty simple & elegant solution which should work for the OP and his copy of Elements. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2009-06-10 08:13:08 -0700, C J Campbell
said: On 2009-06-09 07:26:08 -0700, Brian said: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Regards Brian Create a new layer and use Gaussian blur to blur the entire picture to what you want. Then use the History brush to paint back the portions you want sharp. I just tried that technique, and as a quick fix it does a pretty good job and is very easy. Certainly other work might need to be done on the final product, but the effect is simple to implement. Here is your technique used on the snapshot I had done a quick fix on earlier. It could do with some other work, but it demonstrates the effect. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Jeni_0290a3w.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2009-06-10 09:17:40 -0700, John Navas said:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:58:45 -0700, Savageduck wrote in 2009061008584599374-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom: On 2009-06-10 08:13:08 -0700, C J Campbell said: On 2009-06-09 07:26:08 -0700, Brian said: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Create a new layer and use Gaussian blur to blur the entire picture to what you want. Then use the History brush to paint back the portions you want sharp. Actually CJ, that seems to be a pretty simple & elegant solution which should work for the OP and his copy of Elements. There is no History Brush in Elements, only in full Photoshop. Work-around: http://www.adobetutorialz.com/articles/336/1/How-can-I-simulate-Photoshop%92s-History-brush-when-using-Elements%3F Oops! I haven't used Elements for years. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Bob Larter wrote:
Brian wrote: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Better to use a wide open lens in the first place. This does not always work if the background is close to the subject. Photographing someone in a shop standing in front of items for sale can be a problem and on some camera's there is a limit on how wide open the lens can be. That's why I depend on photo editing programs. Regards Brian |
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Bob Larter wrote:
John Navas wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:46:06 -0700, Jürgen Exner wrote in : Brian wrote: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? Suggestion for next time: use a lens with a large apperture wide open, thus creating a very shallow DOF. Gee, that's really helpful. It'll give dramatically better results than trying to do it in PS. But only if it's possible. If the person is standing in front of an object there is very little dept of field between the two objects. Regards Brian |
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C J Campbell wrote:
On 2009-06-09 07:26:08 -0700, Brian said: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Regards Brian Create a new layer and use Gaussian blur to blur the entire picture to what you want. Then use the History brush to paint back the portions you want sharp. Thanks Campbell tht seems like a simple solution. Regards Brian |
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Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-06-10 08:13:08 -0700, C J Campbell said: On 2009-06-09 07:26:08 -0700, Brian said: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? I am using Adobe photoshop elements 7. Regards Brian Create a new layer and use Gaussian blur to blur the entire picture to what you want. Then use the History brush to paint back the portions you want sharp. I just tried that technique, and as a quick fix it does a pretty good job and is very easy. Certainly other work might need to be done on the final product, but the effect is simple to implement. Here is your technique used on the snapshot I had done a quick fix on earlier. It could do with some other work, but it demonstrates the effect. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Jeni_0290a3w.jpg The effect in the photo looks good. My background is closer to th person so I'm hoping that burring the background will still look natural. It seems to work for closeup's of flowers. |
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Brian wrote:
Bob Larter wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:46:06 -0700, Jürgen Exner wrote in : Brian wrote: I took a photo of someone in a shop and the background is distracting. I tried to use the blur tool to blur the messy background but this did not look right. Is there a better way of buring a background so a person stand out and the background is not distracting to the viewer? Suggestion for next time: use a lens with a large apperture wide open, thus creating a very shallow DOF. It'll give dramatically better results than trying to do it in PS. But only if it's possible. If the person is standing in front of an object there is very little dept of field between the two objects. Well, yes and no. With an f/1.4 or similar you have such a shallow DOF that you need to be careful to have both, nose and ears in focus. But of course you are right, that's not always possible, in particular it requires you have such a lens on hand when you need it. :-) jue |
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