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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...l?ref=business
or - http://tinyurl.com/7fc5nzs http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ankruptcy.html or - http://tinyurl.com/88kq392 Trying to sell patents... Trying to license its brand... Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack Welch used to say...). I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps others. -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer). |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:19:20 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote:
: On Feb 9, 6:05*pm, Alan Browne : wrote: : http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...uters-kodak.ht... : or -http://tinyurl.com/7fc5nzs : : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...out-digital-ca... : or -http://tinyurl.com/88kq392 : : Trying to sell patents... : Trying to license its brand... : : Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack : Welch used to say...). : : : They are in serious trouble if they think printers are a going : concern. The fact that Kodak is in serious trouble is hardly news to anyone. Bob |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack Welch used to say...). I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps others. Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan. Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative products. Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with. I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes and various darkroom tools. For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs. Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and developed in Kodak chemicals. The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever bothered making cameras. How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company. Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive in the market place, They might just survive. BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in to eyes. |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 2012-02-10, Mxsmanic wrote:
tony cooper writes: Not anyone here, perhaps, but do one of those "nospam" market tests and go down to your local chain drugstore and ask the first 100 people to name ten American companies that are successful and I'd bet you'd find Kodak on the list of many responders. There are many people who don't follow business news like this. Maybe that's why they want to license the brand. Soon we'll have Kodak keychains, caps, and coasters. I've already seen Kodak Christmas tree lights. This was not a recent event. Bud |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 2012-02-10 12:57 , William Hamblen wrote:
I've already seen Kodak Christmas tree lights. This was not a recent event. I recall Polaroid VHS tapes. These were contract manufactured and branded Polaroid. -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer). |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
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Alan Browne wrote: On 2012-02-10 12:57 , William Hamblen wrote: I've already seen Kodak Christmas tree lights. This was not a recent event. I recall Polaroid VHS tapes. These were contract manufactured and branded Polaroid. I have a Polaroid LCD (analog not hidef digital) TV/Monitor. There's probably still "Polaroid" products being made today. And I have confidence there will still be "Kodak" prodacts in the future. It's even possible "Kodak" will become an important company. If I recall the process, today's "AT&T" was originally RBOC Bellsouth (nee Southern Bell) which bought out the floundering original AT&T and adopted its name because the name tested so well. -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore.. |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 2012-02-10 11:40 , Bruce wrote:
wrote: On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote: Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack Welch used to say...). I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps others. Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan. I see Alan Browne is showing (yet again) his near-total ignorance of the photo industry. I suppose it matches his ignorance across a broad range of topics related to photography, so it is to be expected. For those who are interested in the facts, rather than the usual Browne BS, Kodak sold its sensor design and manufacturing business to Platinum Equity in early November 2011. It was widely reported across the photo web sites and in printed media and discussed on Usenet photo newsgroups: Really "Bruce", do you lay in wait for my slightest error to make an ad hominem attack? Pathetic is too light a word for your ... condition. With that in mind however, let me refer to some facts since you seem so fond of them: QUOTE But I must be fair to the 75-150mm f/4 Zuiko; it made me money, because the results were good enough for several picture editors. One of my shots taken with this lens was on the cover of "Paris Match" in the late 1970s. The two most "profitable" lenses I owned were this and the 24mm f/2.8 Zuiko, which is a fine lens and every bit the equal of the Nikkor. .. Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK UNQUOTE ref: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.r...w/uyb4AdyG_x4J What editor Tony? What edition of Paris Match Tony? C'mon Tony. Show us your "prowess". Or should these photographic "facts" taken by you suffice to demonstrate your actual abilities? http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cg...-98/d9000a.jpg http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cg...-98/d9000b.jpg http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cg...-98/d9000c.jpg http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cg...-98/d9000d.jpg -- |
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On 2012-02-10 01:04 , John A. wrote:
Then again, they did sell off the sensor division. http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Image_..._Solutions.htm Ah well... -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer). |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 2012-02-10 11:23 , Chloe wrote:
On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote: Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack Welch used to say...). I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps others. Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan. Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative products. I believe Kodak had a brilliant chance to lead, but they took several missteps. The rest ... Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with. So it seemed. However, stepping back companies such as hp and several others have been in printing, longer and larger than Kodak for a long time (at least at the consumer/small office stuff. I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes and various darkroom tools. My first exp. in a darkroom was with a friend who's parents helped him get started. For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs. Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and developed in Kodak chemicals. The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever bothered making cameras. Their largest film markets were in selling family memories, not catering to photographers. So the cameras had to be both cheap and simple. Good enough for the market buying the film. How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company. Over reliance on the printer market did that. Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive in the market place, They might just survive. Hopefully. BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in to eyes. I've been a member of these and other photo NG's for well over 10 years. I'm not a prolific x-poster, but I do x-post where I believe there will be interest in it. Chloe, I hope you participate in the current shoot-in, due this Sunday. http://www.pbase.com/shootin/letter_u Cheers, Alan -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer). |
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Kodak to stop making digital cameras
On 2012-02-09 19:56 , Mxsmanic wrote:
Alan Browne writes: Trying to sell patents... What will happen after all the patents are sold? The idea behind patents is to be able to manufacture new inventions without competition for a brief period. Just selling patents is a dead end. Not selling them while the company disappears robs shareholders of their value. OTOH, at the rate they're disappearing (equity wise) I'm not sure there will be any cash left over after creditors take their bites. Can creditors make claims on the patents and sell them (?). Trying to license its brand... Why would anyone want to license the brand of a company that is going bankrupt? The "brand" still has carrying power - it is highly recognized. Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack Welch used to say...). They might as well focus on notebook paper. Nobody gets rich making printers these days. Disposable shaving blade model. I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps others. So why aren't they making money? Appears I was in error - already sold off that business according to John. -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty." Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer). |
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