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Alan D-W wrote
I'm obsessed with spam at the moment - getting over 40 per day now - and further exposure through Yahoo is just not on. My ISP recently introduced filtering which has reduced my spam emails from 140 per day to about 6. My own filtering blocks the rest. But it's best avoided in the first place, and having to register just to browse is a PITA. Notwithstanding the current perversions in rec.photo.digital I think a pukka NG is always better. I agree 100%. -- Hil |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote
Anybody know of any others? My favorites for gear information are currently http://www.dpreview.com http://www.robgalbraith.com http://www.sportshooter.com Folks willing to start, run and fund a discussion group, and that are _not_ control freaks, are few and far between. LOL! Phil Askey is relatively tolerant, Rob Galbraith less so (especially if anyone mentions rip-off UK prices), but they don't insist that non-posting visitors register. What's the point? I found CompuServe, in it's early days at least, to be a pinnacle of control freakishness. IT managers by day, were they? :-) -- Hil |
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In article , Alan D-W
writes "David Littlewood" wrote in message .. . The answer to your question might just possibly be revealed in the name of his group, don't you think? It's like saying you joined a Mercedes group the other day and to your surprise Alfa Romeo users seem to be discriminated against. Doh. Alan, I think the point is - and I made it to the original poster when he first raised it - that if the purpose of the group is to share information about photogenic sites in the UK, why artificially limit its attractiveness to potential subscribers by calling it a digital group. His answer was that he used a digital camera, which I find breathtakingly illogical, but there you go. If he wants to put off 2/3 of the potential subscribers to his list by creating such an impression, so be it. However, I think your "Doh" should be aimed at the OP, not at Bob. I take your point, and you're absolutely right of course - if a site is photogenic, it's photogenic, whether the medium be digital, silver or video. I don't know if I agree with your 2/3 of potential subscribers - I think it'd be less than that nowadays, but that's another matter. Are you in the USA? I suspect that, although sales of digital have now passed sales of film cameras in the UK, the actual percentage of committed photographers using digital has not yet reached 50%. Personally I would only sign on to a Yahoo or similar group if there was a lot of highly valuable (to me) expertise to be found there that I could not get anywhere else. Otherwise, the significant extra tedium of such a web-based medium, compared with a "proper" newsgroup, together with the additional exposure of my e-mail address, is just not worth the minimal rewards on offer. Also agreed. I'm obsessed with spam at the moment - getting over 40 per day now - and further exposure through Yahoo is just not on. I don't really want that worry just to find out if his group is worthwhile. Notwithstanding the current perversions in rec.photo.digital I think a pukka NG is always better, though I do admit to using a couple of the forums within dpreview.com, probably because they're more specialised than here, ie, aligned to particular cameras. My ISP has just introduced a spam-filter which seems to be quite effective (they set up "honeypot" addresses which have no other purpose but to attract spam, and simply block all mailings which include them in the addressee list). I was getting up to 100 a day until they started it a couple of weeks ago, now down to 5-10. -- David Littlewood |
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"David Littlewood" wrote in message Are you in the USA? I suspect that, although sales of digital have now passed sales of film cameras in the UK, the actual percentage of committed photographers using digital has not yet reached 50%. No, I'm here in the middle of Berkshire. I don't have any true figures for silver vs digital, just a gut feeling really. My ISP has just introduced a spam-filter which seems to be quite effective (they set up "honeypot" addresses which have no other purpose but to attract spam, and simply block all mailings which include them in the addressee list). I was getting up to 100 a day until they started it a couple of weeks ago, now down to 5-10. -- At home I'm with Pipex, at work I'm connected via the NHS network, neither do any filtering. Just a few days ago I installed Mailwasher at home, and it seems to be doing a decent job. My NHS email address is absolutely top secret - no way am I going to risk spam at the hospital! Alan |
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I hadn't realised that I'd comitted such crimes. All I've done is set up a
Yahoo group. I've taken such stick in this thread it makes you wonder if it's really worth it. Prove the link with setting up a Yahoo group and spam - I don't want hearsay or guesswork (like below), rumour, my mate got it or just plain ignorance - I want research, provable research that stands examination. Then I'll take it seriously. The group now has 33 members (at the time of writing - beats 20 doesn't it?). It is open to film users. Film users have joined it. I'm one. That's the trick with groups, they change, grow and evolve with the membership. I am not a control freak Why should I be? Just because I set up a group? Frankly that's pathetic and you should really try harder. "Alan D-W" wrote in message ... "David Littlewood" wrote in message Are you in the USA? I suspect that, although sales of digital have now passed sales of film cameras in the UK, the actual percentage of committed photographers using digital has not yet reached 50%. No, I'm here in the middle of Berkshire. I don't have any true figures for silver vs digital, just a gut feeling really. My ISP has just introduced a spam-filter which seems to be quite effective (they set up "honeypot" addresses which have no other purpose but to attract spam, and simply block all mailings which include them in the addressee list). I was getting up to 100 a day until they started it a couple of weeks ago, now down to 5-10. -- At home I'm with Pipex, at work I'm connected via the NHS network, neither do any filtering. Just a few days ago I installed Mailwasher at home, and it seems to be doing a decent job. My NHS email address is absolutely top secret - no way am I going to risk spam at the hospital! Alan |
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"Millybags" wrote in message ... I hadn't realised that I'd comitted such crimes. All I've done is set up a Yahoo group. I've taken such stick in this thread it makes you wonder if it's really worth it. Prove the link with setting up a Yahoo group and spam - I don't want hearsay or guesswork (like below), rumour, my mate got it or just plain ignorance - I want research, provable research that stands examination. Then I'll take it seriously. The group now has 33 members (at the time of writing - beats 20 doesn't it?). It is open to film users. Film users have joined it. I'm one. That's the trick with groups, they change, grow and evolve with the membership. I am not a control freak Why should I be? Just because I set up a group? Frankly that's pathetic and you should really try harder. I joined your group a couple of days ago after seeing your post in the rec.photo.digital group (which I have been subscribing to on and off for a couple of years, and I can say that right now, r.p.d is beset with idiots who are hell bent on destroying the group. I guess they think it's big and clever to do that, I dunno, personally I think they should get out more !) Anyway, I digress. I run a private yahoo group, and it's quite active and friendly and has never been used as a target or outlet for spam. I've never recieved spam as result of being a member of that group, nor any other private yahoo group (of which I am a member of a fair few). Yahoo's sign-up procedure has good safeguards against sign-up bots, so anyone wanting to get into a group with the express purpose of harvesting it's email addresses for spam has to actually manually sign-up to do so, and quite frankly I reckon it isn't worth the trouble. I've found your group friendly, if a little quiet - but give it time, all groups start somewhere - and I think the idea of a a gallery by area of the country is a nice one. There are existing groups that offer the same sort of thing, yeah - but to state a real-life parellel, we don't, for example, all go to the same pub, do we ? There may not be much difference between pub a, pub b or pub c in real terms, but we just choose one or the other based on how we feel, probably at that very moment. So if you want to try the pub out, you gotta go inside ! No point berating the proprietor for building it, and nobody puts a gun to your head to force you to give it your custom. Try it, you might like it, and if you don't, no harm done - and you're a long time dead. IMHO. Rachael |
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat"
I can say that right now, r.p.d is beset with idiots who are hell bent on destroying the group. Really, is that why number of posts drops from 45 to 6 when my message filter does its thing. Like as if I can't guess... In Mess's i.e. the solution is simple: Message|Block Sender... Do it enough times and it all cleans up and becomes quite civilized. Funny that most of the folks in the kill file have anonymous addresses. Like, for instance, . So, into the bag you go, that's it. Bag 'O Rats is what it is. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. |
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message hlink.net... "Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" I can say that right now, r.p.d is beset with idiots who are hell bent on destroying the group. Really, is that why number of posts drops from 45 to 6 when my message filter does its thing. Like as if I can't guess... In Mess's i.e. the solution is simple: Message|Block Sender... Do it enough times and it all cleans up and becomes quite civilized. Funny that most of the folks in the kill file have anonymous addresses. Like, for instance, . So, into the bag you go, that's it. Bag 'O Rats is what it is. Well, if you'd bothered to check with your brain as opposed to your prejudice (against what I have no idea but I'm assuming as I showed support for the guy who was getting the crap kicked out of him for mentioning a yahoo group you've assumed I'm either a troll or a spammer or what have you), badrats.co.uk is in fact a legit address, and the www version a legit personal website which I've had for five years. I've been posting under the name of rachaelnex and rachael of nex the wiccan rat on usenet for as long as that, and spent a fair time in rpd and other photography groups (and posted here, too, albeit very briefly). Anyone who wants my email address can either go to my website and find it or ask me - the "none" part is a spam trap designed to dump spam, something many people who have half a brain do on usenet. So you've just dumped a totally genuine poster - guess your system doesn't always work. Your loss though huh ? Rachael |
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