Sometimes stupid loses

"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2011-03-30 09:49:38 -0700, "Neil Harrington" said:


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That brings to mind the story of the preacher who after the Sunday
service, takes the collection into the back room. There he is seen to
throw it into the air, spilling all the money on the floor. When he is
asked why he did that, he replies, "it is to give God an opportunity to
benefit from the collection. Anything he can catch and keep is his.
Everything that hits the floor is mine."

guffaw! I love that!


...but Pete it seems is a devout and caring christian, with a place for
those who have less, or who are less fortunate than him, somewhere in
his
heart, and his 10% buys him that peace of mind.

Still we have a large sector of our population who regardless of what
any
of us think, or care to think, are denied medical care at any level

Where is this army of unfortunates?

I see them every day. They are not necessarily the parasites the right
paints them as. These are the working poor, some holding down more than
one poorly paying non-benefit providing job.

There are the currently unemployed, who cannot maintain medical insurance
under COBRA. There are the newly employed who are employed as "individual
contractors" to relieve the employers of the obligation to provide a
medical benefit. There are several I know who are stocking shelves at
Walmart and Target at 2AM. Then working several hours at a Starbucks
followed by a third job delivering pizzas in the evening several days a
week,all just to survive. All with no medical insurance.
These are not the welfare types which the right loves to deride.

As far as I know, anyone who goes to an ER who can't pay for medical care
gets it anyway. In my local hospital's ER there are signs all over saying
this. I've never heard of anyone being turned away (outside of Michelle
Obama's admissions management arrangement, anyway).

True, however this is a false economy. Do you mean to say your advice for
somebody who cannot afford the sort of medical and health care we have
either earned, or are privileged to have, is to go to an emergency room
for all medical care?

Part of a health care system should be the provision of basic medical &
dental check ups. No ER is going to provide this type of care. Also any ER
burdened with that sort of load is going to have to triage their work load
to deal with the real emergency medicine they are there for.

So now when individuals who are in crisis with ailments which could be
dealt with much more cost effectively by a family practice doctor than at
an ER. Your advice to them is going to cost the tax payer even more than a
state funded health policy would.

It is not as if you and I, as taxpayers are avoiding that cost when those
without basic health coverage show up at an ER with a case of flu, or a
skin rash, or a baby with a fever.


let alone the level we as individuals can afford. As a society we have a
moral obligation for their care and no self-righteous 10% religious fire
insurance policy is going to meet that obligation.

Ten percent sounds pretty generous to me. I sure wouldn't dismiss as
"self-righteous" anyone who donates that much.

...but then we are probably on different sides of the religion industry.
A tithe is not a donation, but an imposition of a religious organization
and there is no guarantee it is going to help anybody who truly needs
help.

There is no imposition. A tithe is a scriptural thing, not an imposition.
There is no mandate, you can give that much or not, it's purely your choice.