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Pentax 50mm A lens
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Just got one of these from someone on eBay. Is it correct that to move the aperture ring beyond f11 requires depression of the button on the ring? On my 28mm ring the button is only required for the A position. The button lets you use the A setting. If the aperture ring won't go past f/11, then it might be time for repair. It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). The lock button should stay down until the ring is in the A position, but it rises after f8. What are the chances of having this repaired at a reasonable cost, or even of doing it myself? [Followups set] Daniele |
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D.M. Procida wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote: Just got one of these from someone on eBay. Is it correct that to move the aperture ring beyond f11 requires depression of the button on the ring? On my 28mm ring the button is only required for the A position. The button lets you use the A setting. If the aperture ring won't go past f/11, then it might be time for repair. It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). The lock button should stay down until the ring is in the A position, but it rises after f8. What are the chances of having this repaired at a reasonable cost, or even of doing it myself? [Followups set] Daniele Personally I'd have a go myself, but you might not be as keen to take a lens apart. The cost of repair would outweigh the cost of replacing it from eBay. Did the eBay listing say it was faulty? If not then you are entitled to return it and get a refund. |
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Richard Polhill wrote:
It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). The lock button should stay down until the ring is in the A position, but it rises after f8. What are the chances of having this repaired at a reasonable cost, or even of doing it myself? Personally I'd have a go myself, but you might not be as keen to take a lens apart. The cost of repair would outweigh the cost of replacing it from eBay. I repaired a fairly similar Praktica lens, but I had less to lose as that was non-functional - this lens is otherwise perfect, and works beautifully in all other respects. If there were some way to get at the lock mechanism without messing about with the focus screw, I'd certainly go for it. Did the eBay listing say it was faulty? If not then you are entitled to return it and get a refund. I'm in touch with the seller, but exploring options. Daniele |
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Tony Polson wrote:
Bearing in mind that you are in the UK, a reasonable cost to repair this lens would be about GBP 30 to 40. However, that is probably a lot more than the lens cost you. Doing it youself might be an option, but inexperienced hands can do a lot of damage to a perfectly good lens. Personally, I would return the lens to the seller and demand a refund, then find another example that doesn't need work. I would strongly recommend that you should look for an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, which is one of the best 50mm lenses ever made for an SLR of any brand. That is indeed the one. I got it for less than £40, including postage. It's a really excellent lens, and takes great pictures. Daniele |
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[50mm f1.7 Pentax-A]
It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). The lock button should stay down until the ring is in the A position, but it rises after f8. What are the chances of having this repaired at a reasonable cost, or even of doing it myself? I am not a Pentax-A expert, but if it is like other bayonet mount lenses then removing the shiny mounting ring from the back of the lens by removing 4 (or so) screws should let you slip the aperture ring from the lens. Cover your workplace with a fluffy white towel to catch any dropped or sproinged parts - look out for little ball bearings used to generate the 'click' on the aperture ring. The good news would be that something slipped and fitting it back (possibly with a little gentle corrective bending) fixes everything. The bad news is that something inside has broke in two. The most cost effective solution is to remove the whole lock-button assembly/parts - the lens aperture won't lock but the lens is perfectly useable. The original grease should be fine for reassembly. If the motion is grating then there may be bits of sand in the grease or the grease needs re-distribution. If you need to lubricate (and you don't have the proper lubricants) then dipping a toothpick in 10W-30 engine oil and touching it to parts that need lubing is the best 'kitchen table repair' solution. Don't use WD40/LPS25/3in1/household oil: they all turn to goo in a month or so. Advice worth price charged. I take no responsibility for anything that goes wrong [but, like everyone, expect full credit for anything that goes right]. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
[50mm f1.7 Pentax-A] It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). The lock button should stay down until the ring is in the A position, but it rises after f8. What are the chances of having this repaired at a reasonable cost, or even of doing it myself? I am not a Pentax-A expert, but if it is like other bayonet mount lenses then removing the shiny mounting ring from the back of the lens by removing 4 (or so) screws should let you slip the aperture ring from the lens. That is what I was hoping to hear. The original grease should be fine for reassembly. If the motion is grating then there may be bits of sand in the grease or the grease needs re-distribution. If you need to lubricate (and you don't have the proper lubricants) then dipping a toothpick in 10W-30 engine oil and touching it to parts that need lubing is the best 'kitchen table repair' solution. Don't use WD40/LPS25/3in1/household oil: they all turn to goo in a month or so. On a previous lens I used white lithium grease. Advice worth price charged. I take no responsibility for anything that goes wrong [but, like everyone, expect full credit for anything that goes right]. I shall let you know, if I decide to do that. Daniele |
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D.M. Procida wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote: Just got one of these from someone on eBay. Is it correct that to move the aperture ring beyond f11 requires depression of the button on the ring? On my 28mm ring the button is only required for the A position. The button lets you use the A setting. If the aperture ring won't go past f/11, then it might be time for repair. It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). I'm coming into this thread late so I may have missed the specific A-series 50mm lens being discussed... but I'd guess it's the 50mm f/1.7 - its aperture ring was made with inferior (probably cheaper) material than that on the 50/1.4. If your lens is the SMC-A 50/1.7 then this is the likely cause; the indents in the inner side of the aperture ring just get ground down. Sometimes this can be cured by removing the aperture ring and giving everything a thorough cleaning and lubrication. Sometimes this helps enough to make the lens usable. You *might* be able to do it yourself, but it's easy to lose parts (especially the ball bearing that clicks into the detents) when disassembling and really tricky getting everything back together. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 |
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"Mark Roberts" wrote in message ... D.M. Procida wrote: Paul Mitchum wrote: Just got one of these from someone on eBay. Is it correct that to move the aperture ring beyond f11 requires depression of the button on the ring? On my 28mm ring the button is only required for the A position. The button lets you use the A setting. If the aperture ring won't go past f/11, then it might be time for repair. It's pretty clear that the lock on the aperture ring mechanism is faulty, and gets stuck just before f11. It can be moved past this by holding down the lock button (though I can hear a metallic click as it goes past). I'm coming into this thread late so I may have missed the specific A-series 50mm lens being discussed... but I'd guess it's the 50mm f/1.7 - its aperture ring was made with inferior (probably cheaper) material than that on the 50/1.4. If your lens is the SMC-A 50/1.7 then this is the likely cause; the indents in the inner side of the aperture ring just get ground down. Sometimes this can be cured by removing the aperture ring and giving everything a thorough cleaning and lubrication. Sometimes this helps enough to make the lens usable. You *might* be able to do it yourself, but it's easy to lose parts (especially the ball bearing that clicks into the detents) when disassembling and really tricky getting everything back together. If you do lose the ball, this place has a huge variety of them... http://www.vxb.com/ballbearings.html...FSA4hgods24arQ |
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If you do lose the ball, this place has a huge variety of them...
http://www.vxb.com/ballbearings.html...FSA4hgods24arQ Other sources are industrial supply distributors: http://www.mcmaster.com/ pg 3566 "Metric Stainless Steel Balls" a very good source for all sorts of stuff... -- Nicholas O. Lindan Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC Cleveland, Ohio 44121 |
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