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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
I just picked up a Hoya 49mm circular polarizer. The question I pose to you
is this, I use Hoya Skylight 1B filters on my 55mm and 135mm lenses. I've read that with wide angle lenses you shouldn't use additional filters with the polarizer. But with the 55mm and upwards am I at risk of vignetting if I use the skylight as well as the polarizer? Firstly I put the polarizer right over the skylight, but then thought if I put the skylight over the polarizer it would be good for protection mainly, but also warming the image slightly since the polarizer loses a stop or two.. Am I heading for bad news? |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
What kind of plastic do you mean?
I want to get the best performance but also the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer or the lens itself. How much does a polarizer degrade the image compared to a skylight filter? I was under the impression that the skylight filter doesnt detract hardly anything compared to a polarizer, and a skylight filter could possibly warm the darker image that the polarizer is providing. I thought it was worth asking. thanks for the reply "Annika1980" wrote in message oups.com... Michael Yates wrote: put the skylight over the polarizer it would be good for protection mainly, but also warming the image slightly since the polarizer loses a stop or two.. Am I heading for bad news? Why not just wrap the lens in plastic? Any time you put more glass between the lens and the subject you are degrading the image. Sometimes the difference is small and may be unnoticeable, but why risk it? Shouldn't the goal be to get the best performance you can out of your lens? |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
"Michael Yates" wrote in message ... What kind of plastic do you mean? I want to get the best performance but also the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer or the lens itself. How much does a polarizer degrade the image compared to a skylight filter? I was under the impression that the skylight filter doesnt detract hardly anything compared to a polarizer, and a skylight filter could possibly warm the darker image that the polarizer is providing. I thought it was worth asking. thanks for the reply Bret does have a point, after all, the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer or the lens is to keep them in their boxes and in a safe deposit box somewhere. But if you want the effects that a filter provides, use a filter. If you want the effects of multiple filters, use multiple filters. If the only way that you will feel comfortable enough to walk outside with your lens is to put a "protective" filter on it, then by all means, put a protective filter on it. It will affect your image quality, but if that is the price that you pay for being mentally and emotionally able to get out and shoot pictures, then so be it. For what it's worth, I have never put a "protective" filter on any of my lenses and in 25 years of photography have never damaged a front element, and I'm not the most careful person around. A lens hood might afford all the protection you need, a watertight case and a wetsuit might not. Only you can figure that out. Why not try shooting photos with and without and see if the difference matters to you? Eric Miller |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
Eric Miller wrote: Bret does have a point, after all, the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer or the lens is to keep them in their boxes and in a safe deposit box somewhere. What he said! My point was don't be so paranoid. A good lens hood will keep the dog from licking the lens. A skylight filter is pretty much useless. You want to protect your lens, use a lens cap. Having said that, I can see using a skylight filter if you were shooting a NASCAR race with all the stuff blowing up off the track. Also, a sandstorm or a hurricane might be other times that a filter could save the glass from getting scratched, but I don't shoot much of those either. As for the light loss and image degradation from a skylight filter, it is minimal at best. But you could introduce more flare by using one. Forget the skylight filter. Use the polaraizer as the protective filter if you must. At least it serves a second function. |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
Michael Yates wrote: I just picked up a Hoya 49mm circular polarizer. The question I pose to you is this, I use Hoya Skylight 1B filters on my 55mm and 135mm lenses. I've read that with wide angle lenses you shouldn't use additional filters with the polarizer. But with the 55mm and upwards am I at risk of vignetting if I use the skylight as well as the polarizer? Shouldn't have a probelem - but film is cheap - try it on a few shots and see for yourself. Firstly I put the polarizer right over the skylight, but then thought if I put the skylight over the polarizer it would be good for protection mainly, but also warming the image slightly since the polarizer loses a stop or two.. Love CPs - I do use a skylight or UV filter when not using a "fancy" filter - just makes sense - the one guy responded he never ruined a lens - good for him - I'm not rich so a small amount of protectiojn doesn't hurt - and if I don't want the skylight filter on for the shot - I take it off, shoot, put it back on. Now as for a CP and a skylight together - I don't think the skylight does much for you, and doubtful you'll see any difference with or without it - but then again - take 2 shots of the same composition, shutter, and f-stop settings - both with the CP, but one with the Skylight - see if you see any difference that's worth the effort. Jim |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
Annika1980 wrote: Eric Miller wrote: Bret does have a point, after all, the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer or the lens is to keep them in their boxes and in a safe deposit box somewhere. What he said! My point was don't be so paranoid. A good lens hood will keep the dog from licking the lens. A skylight filter is pretty much useless. You want to protect your lens, use a lens cap. Having said that, I can see using a skylight filter if you were shooting a NASCAR race with all the stuff blowing up off the track. Also, a sandstorm or a hurricane might be other times that a filter could save the glass from getting scratched, but I don't shoot much of those either. Some of us have to also worry about salt spray. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512 At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant to give the lens a nice coating of salt. Scott |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
Scott W wrote: Some of us have to also worry about salt spray. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512 At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant to give the lens a nice coating of salt. Scott Ahhhh - really - so you live near the beach - lucky dog! Are these salt sprays a result of crashing waves and the breeze? I assume that there is the added worry of sand in those breezes? |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
Jimbo wrote:
Scott W wrote: Some of us have to also worry about salt spray. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512 At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant to give the lens a nice coating of salt. Scott Ahhhh - really - so you live near the beach - lucky dog! Are these salt sprays a result of crashing waves and the breeze? I assume that there is the added worry of sand in those breezes? Very little sand seems to get in the air even at the beachs, we just don't get the very strong winds that are needed to kick up the sand very often. But yes the salt gets in the air from crashing waves, and pretty much the waves are always crashing to some extent and there is pretty much always some salt in the air. At night you can see the spray drifting across the road when it is lit up by headlights. Scott |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
"Scott W" wrote in message oups.com... Jimbo wrote: Scott W wrote: Some of us have to also worry about salt spray. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512 At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant to give the lens a nice coating of salt. Scott Ahhhh - really - so you live near the beach - lucky dog! Are these salt sprays a result of crashing waves and the breeze? I assume that there is the added worry of sand in those breezes? Very little sand seems to get in the air even at the beachs, we just don't get the very strong winds that are needed to kick up the sand very often. But yes the salt gets in the air from crashing waves, and pretty much the waves are always crashing to some extent and there is pretty much always some salt in the air. At night you can see the spray drifting across the road when it is lit up by headlights. Scott Yes....And it gets in the underbody of your automobiles, and, in fact, into every piece of equipment you own, from lawnmowers to Leicas........ |
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Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter
William Graham wrote:
"Scott W" wrote in message oups.com... Jimbo wrote: Scott W wrote: Some of us have to also worry about salt spray. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512 At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant to give the lens a nice coating of salt. Scott Ahhhh - really - so you live near the beach - lucky dog! Are these salt sprays a result of crashing waves and the breeze? I assume that there is the added worry of sand in those breezes? Very little sand seems to get in the air even at the beachs, we just don't get the very strong winds that are needed to kick up the sand very often. But yes the salt gets in the air from crashing waves, and pretty much the waves are always crashing to some extent and there is pretty much always some salt in the air. At night you can see the spray drifting across the road when it is lit up by headlights. Scott Yes....And it gets in the underbody of your automobiles, and, in fact, into every piece of equipment you own, from lawnmowers to Leicas........ Yup, everything rusts here. Of course we also have the volcano putting out 1,000 tons of sulfur dioxide each day so that does not help either. Scott |
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