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Old May 24th 04, 02:50 PM
McLeod
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I am building a darkroom after finally moving to a house large enough
to hold one and would appreciate any links to some good pictures of
plumbing panels to go above the sink. I want to keep the plumbing
seperate from the sink for ease of construction and so I can set a
piece of plywood on top of the sink to use it to collect clutter as
well.
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Old May 24th 04, 06:29 PM
Gilbert Dumont
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:50:25 -0500, McLeod
wrote:

I am building a darkroom after finally moving to a house large enough
to hold one and would appreciate any links to some good pictures of
plumbing panels to go above the sink. I want to keep the plumbing
seperate from the sink for ease of construction and so I can set a
piece of plywood on top of the sink to use it to collect clutter as
well.



In "The new darkroom handbook" (Focal press) you will find just what
you are looking for.

Gilbert
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Old May 24th 04, 07:55 PM
McLeod
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:29:39 +0200, Gilbert Dumont
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In "The new darkroom handbook" (Focal press) you will find just what
you are looking for.

Gilbert


Yes, I have that book. It has some very good examples, but I was
looking for real world advice. If someone has recently plumbed a sink
and discovered that they would do something differently next time, I
would be interested in that type of thing. How many water outlets
they would have, how many temperature regulated hoses, any sink
finishing advice, etc. I'm looking for potential improvements to my
sink and plumbing I haven't thought of. Would you make the sink
ribbed so water can flow under the trays or would you leave it flat
for easier cleaning, etc?
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Old May 24th 04, 09:10 PM
nicholas
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McLeod wrote:
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:29:39 +0200, Gilbert Dumont
wrote:



In "The new darkroom handbook" (Focal press) you will find just what
you are looking for.

Gilbert



Yes, I have that book. It has some very good examples, but I was
looking for real world advice. If someone has recently plumbed a sink
and discovered that they would do something differently next time, I
would be interested in that type of thing. How many water outlets
they would have, how many temperature regulated hoses, any sink
finishing advice, etc. I'm looking for potential improvements to my
sink and plumbing I haven't thought of. Would you make the sink
ribbed so water can flow under the trays or would you leave it flat
for easier cleaning, etc?

It depends on how permanent you expect it to be... If not forever
forever permanent... I use garden fittings for all of my darkroom
plumbing, quick to use, modular and inexpensive. However, I don't use
running water much and or high pressures at all (no pressure valve or
anything like that)...
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Old May 25th 04, 12:16 AM
f/256
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"McLeod" wrote in message
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I am building a darkroom after finally moving to a house large enough
to hold one and would appreciate any links to some good pictures of
plumbing panels to go above the sink. I want to keep the plumbing
seperate from the sink for ease of construction and so I can set a
piece of plywood on top of the sink to use it to collect clutter as
well.

Great ideas here http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/waterpanel.htm

Guillermo


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Old May 25th 04, 02:13 PM
DanSMeyers
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Great ideas here http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/waterpanel.htm

Yeah, if you want to be electrocuted...look closely.

Dan
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Old May 25th 04, 02:41 PM
f/256
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"DanSMeyers" wrote in message
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Great ideas here http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/waterpanel.htm

Yeah, if you want to be electrocuted...look closely.


Still, there are great IDEAS in there, besides, the asker wanted PLUMBING
panels examples, Claudio's panel plumbing wise will not electrocute you, it
just carries water! Claudio has combined the electrical and plumbing
panels into one, the asker doesn't need to put them together, nor did he ask
for electric panels. Having said that, Claudio has taken safety measures by
adding a GFI breaker feeding the outlets and grounding the copper pipes and
probably he is not messy when spraying water!. About the only change I'd do
to the electric side of Claudio's panel would be to place the outlets right
at the top edge of the panel.

Guillermo


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Old May 25th 04, 05:36 PM
lost in space
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I'm still using the sink and backpanel I put together in the late 80s.
It looks somewhat like the sink in the link from f/256, except all the
copper pipe is behind the panel. A bit more trouble, but the front of
the panel is cleaner and leaves more room for hanging little racks for
thermometers, stirring sticks, measuring cups and the like. It's
attached to the sink, but is easily removed. I've moved it twice
since building it, and each time have been glad I had the sense to
make it detachable. Also, the base disassembles easily.

By undoing one screw at each end, the panel tilts forward, in case
anything needed to be done in back, though in the 17 years since I
built it, I've never had to do that.

The back panel is two 1" x 6", giving a height of about 10" above the
back of the sink. It's finished in marine varnish. It has filters on
the intake. The sink was built with ACX plywood coated over with a
two-part clear coating like what is used on bartops. After all these
years, just two spots near the drain show signs of seepage. It was
originally 11 ft long, 33" wide and 8" deep. It turns out I never got
into prints big enough to take advantage of the 33" width, so I might
make it a little narrower if I had to do it again. On the top edge of
the front side, where you would rest your elbows, put a piece of 1" x
3" fir, nicely rounded, smoothed and varnished, for leaning on. Makes
a nice elbow rest and was well worth the effort. The original height
was 36" at the sink bottom, but I've cut it down by 3" (I'm 5'5"
tall). I just finished installing it in its latest location and two
weeks ago printed for the first time in 6 years (!) so I'm just
getting used to some of the other changes I made. It wouldn't fit into
my present space, so I shortened it from 11 feet to 6, losing one
faucet in the process. I now have one unregulated faucet instead of
two on the developing/left end and one regulated faucet on the
washer/right end. The regulated faucet has two hoses, one for mixing
chemicals and the other for the print washer. I miss the faucet I
took out and the sink length too. Also the spacing of the faucets is
not optimal, but I was too anxious about getting it all back together
to do anything about that.

Good luck and have fun

McLeod wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:29:39 +0200, Gilbert Dumont
wrote:


In "The new darkroom handbook" (Focal press) you will find just what
you are looking for.

Gilbert


Yes, I have that book. It has some very good examples, but I was
looking for real world advice. If someone has recently plumbed a sink
and discovered that they would do something differently next time, I
would be interested in that type of thing. How many water outlets
they would have, how many temperature regulated hoses, any sink
finishing advice, etc. I'm looking for potential improvements to my
sink and plumbing I haven't thought of. Would you make the sink
ribbed so water can flow under the trays or would you leave it flat
for easier cleaning, etc?

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Old May 25th 04, 11:12 PM
Alexis Neel
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I have pictures, somewhere, that I think you will find helpful. They
are of one of my many darkrooms I've build over the last 20 years, and
comes from a professional, productive perspective. It might take a
few days to find them, if they aren't packed already (we're moving
back to the states from Europe at the end of June) If I can't find
them, would a detailed drawing do?

Alexis

www.alexisneel.com


"f/256" wrote in message news:_1Isc.161389
...
"DanSMeyers" wrote in message
...
Great ideas here http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/waterpanel.htm

Yeah, if you want to be electrocuted...look closely.


Still, there are great IDEAS in there, besides, the asker wanted PLUMBING
panels examples, Claudio's panel plumbing wise will not electrocute you, it
just carries water! Claudio has combined the electrical and plumbing
panels into one, the asker doesn't need to put them together, nor did he ask
for electric panels. Having said that, Claudio has taken safety measures by
adding a GFI breaker feeding the outlets and grounding the copper pipes and
probably he is not messy when spraying water!. About the only change I'd do
to the electric side of Claudio's panel would be to place the outlets right
at the top edge of the panel.

Guillermo

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Old May 26th 04, 02:18 AM
Gregory W Blank
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In article ,
(Alexis Neel) wrote:

I have pictures, somewhere, that I think you will find helpful. They
are of one of my many darkrooms I've build over the last 20 years, and
comes from a professional, productive perspective. It might take a
few days to find them, if they aren't packed already (we're moving
back to the states from Europe at the end of June) If I can't find
them, would a detailed drawing do?

Alexis

www.alexisneel.com

I would like to see them as well, I'll be build a new darkroom perhaps in the
next 6 months. Each has been progressively bigger, the next one I am thinking
300-400 square feet. The one I currently have is 10x12.
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