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$500 REWARD FOR IDENTITY OF TROLL
I will pay $500 via PayPal for solid evidence telling me who posted this. You can use a hotmail account and hide your identity. From: " Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.policy Subject: [info] Lionel Lauer 58 Gore Street Fitzroy, Victoria Australia 3065 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=200.41.109.56; posting-account=3baWYAwAAAAy9YbJyM9sUqJ1BvRHbii- X-Organization: http://groups.google.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.109.56 X-Original-Path: o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail X-Poster-Complaints-To: X-Poster-Trace: posting.google.com 1107310786 3533 127.0.0.1 (2 Feb 2005 02:19:46 GMT) Lionel Lauer ## G### Street F#####, V#### Australia #### Tel: (####) ### ### Photo of Lionel: http://www.#####.com/image/##### |
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wrote in message ... I will pay $500 via PayPal for solid evidence telling me who posted this. You can use a hotmail account and hide your identity. Oh do stop being so silly, there's a good boy. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... It was sent by a customer of Digitalway in Lima, Peru. Abuse e-mail: Abuse telephone: 51(1)3175927 Address: Digitalway Los Rosales 285 of. 401 San Isidro Lima 27 Peru I wouldn't be too hopeful about tracking the person down, though. -- The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. I myself have had a network security specialist trace defamation aimed at me and found the trail dead after attempting to discover the string of anonymous proxies being used. There is reason to believe one single person is responsible for a plethora of these sort of postings. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. |
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Ryadia writes:
The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. It's true that the originating IP address isn't always reliable. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. It's not Google's problem. Besides, there are hundreds of other search engines and hundreds of thousands of newsgroup servers. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that:
Ryadia writes: The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. It's true that the originating IP address isn't always reliable. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. It's not Google's problem. Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against the troll. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:08:45 +1100, Lionel wrote:
Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that: Ryadia writes: The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. It's true that the originating IP address isn't always reliable. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. It's not Google's problem. Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against the troll. If the trail ends at an ISp that doesn't control who uses it as an open relay, then Google, if subpoenaed, would run into that same dead end, wouldn't it? So how is Google preventing victims from finding the perp? -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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Lionel writes:
Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against the troll. Have the posts been judged defamatory in court? -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:08:45 +1100, Lionel wrote:
Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that: Ryadia writes: The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. It's true that the originating IP address isn't always reliable. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. It's not Google's problem. Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against the troll. If the trail ends at an ISp that doesn't control who uses it as an open relay, then Google, if subpoenaed, would run into that same dead end, wouldn't it? So how is Google preventing victims from finding the perp? -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:17:11 +0100, in article
"Mxsmanic" wrote: Ryadia writes: The problem here Mxsmanic is the Peruvian IP address is in fact an open relay proxy server concealing the identity of the real poster. It's true that the originating IP address isn't always reliable. This is precisely why Google needs to be made accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to be posted to their servers and then publishing it to Usenet without a care in the world for the personal damage it does to otherwise innocent people. It's not Google's problem. Besides, there are hundreds of other search engines and hundreds of thousands of newsgroup servers. Nevertheless, they ARE the publishers of the libel, and under the laws of the country in which action is being brought, are liable once they have been placed on notice of the defamation if they fail to remove it. Moreover, by failing to reject posts made through well-known open proxies, they are continuing to provide an easy path for libels to be published through them. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657 |
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