Depth of field - two of them?

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:28:57 -0500, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

. I wasn't attributing
anything to the sim card (or not). I was meely describing the iPad.

How do Aple describe such ipads ?
it's Wifi or wifi and cellular .

Why mention the SIM ?

To help discriminate my iPad from other possible models of iPad.

ipads have a non-sim model (wifi) and sim model (wifi+cellular),

Mine is the latter.

most are wifi+cellular, partly because of the gps. activating cellular
is not required, and it's pay as you go, month to month, without any
long term commitment (unless it's subsidized).

the way to differentiate an ipad is by model and generation, sometimes
also its size, e.g., ipad 2, ipad air, ipad mini 3, ipad pro 10.5"

As best as I can recall, the official description at the time I bought
it was iPad Third Generation.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:28:59 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


It's advice that you have misread and
misunderstood what I wrote. I never said that Safari takes 8 seconds.

searching via google certainly doesn't take 8 seconds. it's *instant*,
with search suggestions auto-populating as you type, much like on a
desktop computer...

Now for your third try at reading and understanding what I wrote.
Hint: I said nothing about the time for searching in Google.

if it's not searching time, then it must be app launch time.

do try to keep your story straight.

I wrote:

" By actual test the Google app takes 30 seconds from start
to finish before I can start typing. Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more."

By implication and common usage "Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more before I can start typing".

as i said, something is wrong.

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:28:59 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

it;s a wifi problem that if yuo used yuor PC on wifi yuo;d get the same
or similar problem, which you;d also get with any andriod device or ANY
other device on wifi.

My desktop is not wifi.

My iMac can, can't you're PC do wifi ?

It was on wifi but I went to a great deal of trouble to get a Cat6
connection.

cat6 is not required for gigabit.

What's coming next. The cable is built into my house.

your house has cat6 in the walls?

Under the floor and terminating in walls. At one end the floor is
about 6' off the ground. at the other end its about 12'~15' off the
ground. And then I had to get the cable up through the ground floor
wall to the room of the wall above. The whole thing was a major
exercise.

This is not a discussion about what might
be. It's a discussion about what is.

except your 'what is' is broken and you don't want to fix it.

You keep arguing as if I think the problem is in my iPad.

nope. it's also your router.

why in the world would you cripple a gigabit uplink with an outdated
802.11n router????

Because my ISP can manage it. They could not manage my previous
undoubtedly crappy router which fact caused me all kinds of problems.
This was before I ran the ethernet cables.

does it even have gigabit ports? many early n routers did not, since
1x1 can't go that fast.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:28:59 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


It's advice that you have misread and
misunderstood what I wrote. I never said that Safari takes 8 seconds.

searching via google certainly doesn't take 8 seconds. it's *instant*,
with search suggestions auto-populating as you type, much like on a
desktop computer...

Now for your third try at reading and understanding what I wrote.
Hint: I said nothing about the time for searching in Google.

if it's not searching time, then it must be app launch time.

do try to keep your story straight.

I wrote:

" By actual test the Google app takes 30 seconds from start
to finish before I can start typing. Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more."

By implication and common usage "Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more before I can start typing".

as i said, something is wrong.

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.

Why would you need to first load Google into Safari on your iPad?

With Safari on my iPad to search using Google all I have to do is enter the
search criteria into the Safari URL window and hit return. That runs pretty
quick.

The other option is to use the Google app, enter search criteria into the
search window and the result is virtually instantaneous.

Then there are other search apps such as Bing, and DuckDuckGo.

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Regards,
Savageduck

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

As best as I can recall, the official description at the time I bought
it was iPad Third Generation.

which was released in march, 2012, making it 7 years old.

it also tops out at ios 9, which is 4 versions old.

go dig up a similarly old pc and see how well it works today.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I wrote:

" By actual test the Google app takes 30 seconds from start
to finish before I can start typing. Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more."

By implication and common usage "Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more before I can start typing".

as i said, something is wrong.

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.

you don't.

as i said, you're doing something wrong. that's clearly one thing and
there may be others.

In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I wrote:

" By actual test the Google app takes 30 seconds from start
to finish before I can start typing. Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more."

By implication and common usage "Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more before I can start typing".

as i said, something is wrong.

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.

Why would you need to first load Google into Safari on your iPad?

With Safari on my iPad to search using Google all I have to do is enter the
search criteria into the Safari URL window and hit return. That runs pretty
quick.

The other option is to use the Google app, enter search criteria into the
search window and the result is virtually instantaneous.

Then there are other search apps such as Bing, and DuckDuckGo.

those are sites. there are also other browsers, hundreds of them, in
fact.

and no browser is even needed. spotlight also works.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

This is not a discussion about what might
be. It's a discussion about what is.

except your 'what is' is broken and you don't want to fix it.

You keep arguing as if I think the problem is in my iPad.

nope. it's also your router.

why in the world would you cripple a gigabit uplink with an outdated
802.11n router????

Because my ISP can manage it. They could not manage my previous
undoubtedly crappy router which fact caused me all kinds of problems.
This was before I ran the ethernet cables.

there's nothing to manage. set it up once and it's done.

does it even have gigabit ports? many early n routers did not, since
1x1 can't go that fast.

not gonna answer that?

nospam wrote:
In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I wrote:

" By actual test the Google app takes 30 seconds from start
to finish before I can start typing. Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more."

By implication and common usage "Google via Safari takes about
8 seconds or a little more before I can start typing".

as i said, something is wrong.

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.

Why would you need to first load Google into Safari on your iPad?

With Safari on my iPad to search using Google all I have to do is enter the
search criteria into the Safari URL window and hit return. That runs pretty
quick.

The other option is to use the Google app, enter search criteria into the
search window and the result is virtually instantaneous.

Then there are other search apps such as Bing, and DuckDuckGo.

those are sites.

What I am referring to are the apps available via the AppStore, Google,
Bing, and DuckDuckGo. While they are also sites there are stand alone apps
which work very well.

there are also other browsers, hundreds of them, in
fact.

Yup!

and no browser is even needed. spotlight also works.

....and Yup!


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Regards,
Savageduck

In article , Savageduck
wrote:

launching safari on my original (and comparatively) slow ipad takes
about 1 second, with google searches showing results immediately, as i
type.

But not if you have to first load Google into Safari.

Why would you need to first load Google into Safari on your iPad?

With Safari on my iPad to search using Google all I have to do is enter the
search criteria into the Safari URL window and hit return. That runs pretty
quick.

The other option is to use the Google app, enter search criteria into the
search window and the result is virtually instantaneous.

Then there are other search apps such as Bing, and DuckDuckGo.

those are sites.

What I am referring to are the apps available via the AppStore, Google,
Bing, and DuckDuckGo. While they are also sites there are stand alone apps
which work very well.

those aren't needed any more than the google app.

all that's needed is a browser.

safari is the default but there are many, many others.

just about all of them combine urls and searching into one text entry
field, so no need to even go to google.com, plus the default search
engine can be set in settings for those who prefer something else.

there are also other browsers, hundreds of them, in
fact.

Yup!

and no browser is even needed. spotlight also works.

...and Yup!

yup