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MicroPress 4x5 question
On the MPP MicroPress 4x5 camera there is a FRONT - BACK switch. It seems
to be locked in the FRONT position but the FP shutter works fine in this position and I am not able to move the switch to the BACK position. Anybody knows the secret behind this switch? The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? .....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? .....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Max |
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The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Max Perl" wrote The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. OK! ......then I will go for such a back. The Horseman 6x9 has good film flatness? Probably not as good as LinHof backs but these I can't use I guess? -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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On Nov 2, 7:29 am, "Max Perl" wrote:
"Nicholas O. Lindan" skrev i en . .. "Max Perl" wrote The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. OK! ......then I will go for such a back. The Horseman 6x9 has good film flatness? Probably not as good as LinHof backs but these I can't use I guess? -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Horseman roll backs seem to be highly regarded. I also have an MPP back that is pretty good. |
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"Max Perl" wrote
I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. OK! ......then I will go for such a back. The Horseman 6x9 has good film flatness? Probably not as good as LinHof backs but these I can't use I guess? You can use Linhof. Be sure to get the model for 4x5. 6x9 roll adapters also come in a form to fit 6x9 cameras - this is what you don't want. The type you want will be a roll film back attached to a 5x6" plate. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/7...m_Holders.html -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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"Peter" skrev i en meddelelse ps.com... On Nov 2, 7:29 am, "Max Perl" wrote: "Nicholas O. Lindan" skrev i en . .. "Max Perl" wrote The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. OK! ......then I will go for such a back. The Horseman 6x9 has good film flatness? Probably not as good as LinHof backs but these I can't use I guess? -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Horseman roll backs seem to be highly regarded. I also have an MPP back that is pretty good. OK......of course I could go for an original MPP back. I was just thinking they were difficult to get....... |
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Max Perl" wrote I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? Same as a "Graflok" back ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Yes. OK! ......then I will go for such a back. The Horseman 6x9 has good film flatness? Probably not as good as LinHof backs but these I can't use I guess? You can use Linhof. Be sure to get the model for 4x5. 6x9 roll adapters also come in a form to fit 6x9 cameras - this is what you don't want. The type you want will be a roll film back attached to a 5x6" plate. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/7...m_Holders.html -- Thank you! Now I know a bit more of the LF world :-) The Linhof backs are not cheap.......but for an old press camera a used 6x9 Horseman back should do it or a original MPP if I can find one. Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote: "Max Perl" wrote The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. To emphasize what Nicholas said, the major problem with older Schneider lenses is that their quality control was terrible until some time in the 1960s (a rough estimate of my own; Richard may know more precisely). The basic design is fine though in general a higher-end example of this same design type (such as a Kodak Ektar) would probably perform better and not cost much to acquire. The high-end Schneider lens for press cameras was the Xenotar, but even with those (which have a much more complex design which should offer considerably better performance at wide apertures than the Xenar) there is the curse of inconsistent Schneider quality control for most of the press-camera era. If you are in love with your press camera and want the best lens money can buy, there is a very rare 135mm Zeiss Planar (a few were even made with modern "T*" multicoating) that is the ne plus ultra of press lenses, but you could literally buy twenty press cameras on eBay for what it is likely to cost if you can find one. -- Thor Lancelot Simon "The inconsistency is startling, though admittedly, if consistency is to be abandoned or transcended, there is no problem." - Noam Chomsky |
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"Thor Lancelot Simon" skrev i en meddelelse ... In article , Nicholas O. Lindan wrote: "Max Perl" wrote The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? Variable, some are good, some not so good -- you would have to test and make your own decision. Best performance will be at f22. To emphasize what Nicholas said, the major problem with older Schneider lenses is that their quality control was terrible until some time in the 1960s (a rough estimate of my own; Richard may know more precisely). The basic design is fine though in general a higher-end example of this same design type (such as a Kodak Ektar) would probably perform better and not cost much to acquire. The high-end Schneider lens for press cameras was the Xenotar, but even with those (which have a much more complex design which should offer considerably better performance at wide apertures than the Xenar) there is the curse of inconsistent Schneider quality control for most of the press-camera era. If you are in love with your press camera and want the best lens money can buy, there is a very rare 135mm Zeiss Planar (a few were even made with modern "T*" multicoating) that is the ne plus ultra of press lenses, but you could literally buy twenty press cameras on eBay for what it is likely to cost if you can find one. It was just for fun I purchased this camera.......as I got it for about $150 with lens. It has a FP shutter which makes it suitable to use with lenses with no shutter. The lens plate seems also to be quite simple. But I will try the 135/4.7 Xenar and see how it performs. The LF Nikkors are not to bad I think..... I am interrested in photo history and I never heard about the english MPP company before I got this camera. The FP shutter they used looks identical to some used on Graflex cameras. 4x5" FP shutter........never heard about this before either. |
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MicroPress 4x5 question
"Max Perl" wrote in message ... On the MPP MicroPress 4x5 camera there is a FRONT - BACK switch. It seems to be locked in the FRONT position but the FP shutter works fine in this position and I am not able to move the switch to the BACK position. Anybody knows the secret behind this switch? The camera came with a Xenar 135/4.7 lens. Is this an OK performer? I think I have the International Back version. What does this mean? ....that many suppliers of rollfilm backs can be used on the camera? ....e.g. a Horseman 6x9 back? Max If the switch is like the one on the Speed Graphic you have to push it in a bit to unlock it. See if that works. -- --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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