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Old April 7th 06, 09:57 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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I think you ment MD4 thought the only Motordrive for the F3 is MD4
I have both 70s compacts and a F3 and MD4

The best shutter response I know of is an MD10 motor drive
on a Nikon F3, but it's sort of bulgy carried in a pant's
pocket.


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Old April 7th 06, 12:33 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Bhup" wrote
Nicholas O. Lindan wrote
The best shutter response I know of is an MD10 motor drive
on a Nikon F3, but it's sort of bulgy carried in a pant's
pocket

I think you meant MD4


You are quite right. An MD10 would be very unresponsive mated
to an F3.


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Old April 8th 06, 03:24 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Hannu" u20546@uwe wrote in message news:5e58b2302541b@uwe...
I had a Yashica T5 but lost it one drunken night and decided it would be a
good time to switch to digital. After a brief daliance with a couple of
digital cameras I've not been overly impressed with the end results, so

have
decided to come back home. Love have a good quality camera around but was
frustrated by the Yashica's long shutter lag (the time taken from pressing
the button to the photo being taken)(don't mean to be patronising but just

to
clarify). I have noticed recently that the high end compacts have started

to
become very affordable second hand but I need your advice as to which ones
suffer the least from shutter lag. The creative options that the high end
compacts offer are desirable but most importantly for me is a good lens

and
fast reaction times.

I've been looking at the following Contax T2/T3, Nikon 35Ti, Rollei

35TE/SE,
Fujifilm Natura, Ricoh GR1v but if you can add any other suggestion I'd be
grateful for any input. I haven't mentioned any Leica's because they all

seem
too pricey or are the size of bricks. I'd appreciate your advice....


The Ricoh GR1v has not much lag if you pre-set the focus, set it to
'snap-focus' or use the manual(ish) focus. Otherwise its lag is good by P&S
standards, and will trounce any digital P&S, but still a long way behind an
SLR or a (good) rangefinder.

The Olympus XA suggested by others doesn't have a lens anything like as good
as the Ricoh's, but it has very little shutter lag indeed, if that is your
key criterion.

The '70s RFs mentioned by others that use trap-needle AF can have extremely
short lag _once the needle is trapped_ so you can press the shutter part
way and thereby lock the exposure, and then get very fast reaction times
when you press the shutter the rest of the way. They are not that fast
reacting from when you start the first press though - some more so than
others, of course.


Peter


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Old April 9th 06, 02:04 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Hannu" u20546@uwe wrote in message news:5e58b2302541b@uwe...
frustrated by the Yashica's long shutter lag (the time taken from pressing
the button to the photo being taken)(don't mean to be patronising but just

to
clarify). I have noticed recently that the high end compacts have started

to
become very affordable second hand but I need your advice as to which ones
suffer the least from shutter lag. The creative options that the high end
compacts offer are desirable but most importantly for me is a good lens

and
fast reaction times.

Not that I recommend it, but I have an Agfa Optima 500 Sensor, that comes
closer to no shutter lag at all, than anything I've ever had. The big "Agfa
orange" shutter button doesn't move; you just put a little pressure on it,
and the 2 blade leaf shutter fires without AF hesitation. Sometimes it's too
fast, but a clever design. Bob Hickey


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Old May 13th 06, 07:36 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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In article .com,
" wrote:

I think the OP was trying to find a camera without shutter lag; the
stylus is pretty bad on this count.


I've had a Stylus Epic for ten years now and I have to admit that I have
never thought that it had a shutter lag problem. Of course, now I'm
going to go looking for a problem.
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Old May 13th 06, 07:01 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Tim" wrote in message
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In article .com,
" wrote:

I think the OP was trying to find a camera without shutter lag; the
stylus is pretty bad on this count.


I've had a Stylus Epic for ten years now and I have to admit that I have
never thought that it had a shutter lag problem. Of course, now I'm
going to go looking for a problem.


I've never noticed a shutter lag on any point and shoot 35mm.


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Old May 14th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Certainly when I got an mju-1 I was surprised at how long it took to
take a picture after you hit the button. Perhaps the epic is better.
Eventually got fed up with it so can't compare it with anything now.
:^(

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Old May 22nd 06, 04:35 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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In article . com,
" wrote:

Certainly when I got an mju-1 I was surprised at how long it took to
take a picture after you hit the button. Perhaps the epic is better.
Eventually got fed up with it so can't compare it with anything now.
:^(


I know Olympus uses different names in different countries. In the US,
the Epic is has a 35mm 2.8. Is that the same as the mju-1, or does that
model have a zoom lens?

BTW, totally irrelevant to this discusssion but the Epic's 35mm 2.8 is
quite a sharp lens. It's probably my sharpest lens ...
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Old May 22nd 06, 07:40 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Hi Tim

The mju-1 over here had a 35mm f3.5 lens and I believe was the
equivalent of the Stylus. The mju-2 had a larger f2.8 lens and
apparently is known as the Stylus Epic everywhere else.

It might be a simple case that in the UK 'stylus' had already been used
for a camera, for example while everyone else watched Top Cat we had
Boss Cat as Top Cat was a brand of cat food.

My mju-1 (and also my LT) had good sharp lenses but unfortunately the
flash gave serious red-eye even in daylight and they both made
occasional exposure howlers.

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Old May 22nd 06, 11:43 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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In article .com,
" wrote:

Hi Tim

The mju-1 over here had a 35mm f3.5 lens and I believe was the
equivalent of the Stylus. The mju-2 had a larger f2.8 lens and
apparently is known as the Stylus Epic everywhere else.

It might be a simple case that in the UK 'stylus' had already been used
for a camera, for example while everyone else watched Top Cat we had
Boss Cat as Top Cat was a brand of cat food.


Interesting. I always wondered why the companies would use different
names across English speaking countries. For marketing and branding
purposes, it would be beneficial if we were all calling the products the
same names.

My mju-1 (and also my LT) had good sharp lenses but unfortunately the
flash gave serious red-eye even in daylight and they both made
occasional exposure howlers.


Oh, yeah. I may not have seen shutter lag but I *definitely* have seen
red-eye with that camera.
 




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