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Mr. Burnett's images have appeared on the covers of many national publications.
All this naysaying is empty pontificating steve simmons |
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"CamArtsMag" wrote in message All this naysaying is empty pontificating steve simmons You'd be the one to know about that Mr. Simmons. Now go sell some more magazines. John Emmons |
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"CamArtsMag" wrote in message All this naysaying is empty pontificating steve simmons You'd be the one to know about that Mr. Simmons. Now go sell some more magazines. John Emmons |
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"CamArtsMag" wrote in message All this naysaying is empty pontificating steve simmons You'd be the one to know about that Mr. Simmons. Now go sell some more magazines. John Emmons |
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CamArtsMag wrote:
All of this discussion aboiut it can't be done is silly. David Burnett is covering the campaign trial using a Speed Graphic and a variety of 4x5 films. steve simmons Walter Ioos once covered a Super Bowl using a 4x5. Also, there was a project at the previous Olympics that involved several photographers using 4x5, or larger cameras. That was covered in PDN magazine. While it would seem that only portraits might be done at those venues, there were actually quite a few action shots. I don't see why people would think it was difficult. Jacques Henri Lartigue was doing action shots quite a long time ago. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated! |
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"John Emmons" wrote in message
... No sour grapes at all. The simple fact that a story has been written on the fact that Mr. Burnett is covering the campaign with a 4"x5" is evidence enough that his equipment has become the story, not his images. Thanks for coming back on this, John. I was running out the door, being hasty. This subject deserves more considerate discussion. It is unfortunate, but inevitable, that people are making news of the hardware. Agreed. But in the long-term the work will, or will not, stand on its own. Besides, he's not the only one photographing the events in question. Please read on. First, an unfortunate truism - very often adequate visual evidence of an event can be conveyed using the simplest equipment with an uninformed, unprofessional photographer, but usually that kind of thing doesn't make it because we, the readers and viewers, would like pictures that are more sophisticated, so we tend to choose professional photojournalism wherein the photographers choose a point-of-view, for better or worse, which is more distinguishing. Now take that one more step - the LF work being done by Mr. Burnett adds new language to the reportage stills, and that's a good thing for those who understand or appreciate the language. [...] If I had been a working press photographer in the first half of the last century, I no doubt would have used a Speed Graphic. I have a sneaking suspicion you would have also toyed with that new-fangled miniature camera, the Leica. Artificially limiting one's self to a camera that has seen it's day isn't telling the day to day story of a presidential campaign any better than those photographer's using the most modern digital gear. I disagree. As I said above, there are a lot of pictures being made and Burnett's contribution offers some unique views and sophisticated photographic language. I am very happy he's doing what he is. It's stroking the ego of the photographer and it provides a hook for the photographer to sell to an editor. I can only assume that Mr. Burnett is working on a book project as getting 4"x5" images to a magazine or a daily newspaper is problematical these days. I'll bet his ego is the least of his motivations, but even if it were, then the pictures have to stand on their own, and I will bet they do. Good for him and whomever else is working on the campaigns I guess, it gives them work in a time when photojournalism as it was once practiced is virtually non-existent, just don't try and sell it as the best way to document a campaign, cause it ain't. Indeed, PJ seems to be a waning craft, but actually in terms of the numbers of essays it is still well represented. Stills simply hold a lesser _percentage_ of the mass media than they once did. But you know, I've never known a good and successful photojournalist who sought celebrity status, and that's a good thing. |
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"John Emmons" wrote in message
... No sour grapes at all. The simple fact that a story has been written on the fact that Mr. Burnett is covering the campaign with a 4"x5" is evidence enough that his equipment has become the story, not his images. Thanks for coming back on this, John. I was running out the door, being hasty. This subject deserves more considerate discussion. It is unfortunate, but inevitable, that people are making news of the hardware. Agreed. But in the long-term the work will, or will not, stand on its own. Besides, he's not the only one photographing the events in question. Please read on. First, an unfortunate truism - very often adequate visual evidence of an event can be conveyed using the simplest equipment with an uninformed, unprofessional photographer, but usually that kind of thing doesn't make it because we, the readers and viewers, would like pictures that are more sophisticated, so we tend to choose professional photojournalism wherein the photographers choose a point-of-view, for better or worse, which is more distinguishing. Now take that one more step - the LF work being done by Mr. Burnett adds new language to the reportage stills, and that's a good thing for those who understand or appreciate the language. [...] If I had been a working press photographer in the first half of the last century, I no doubt would have used a Speed Graphic. I have a sneaking suspicion you would have also toyed with that new-fangled miniature camera, the Leica. Artificially limiting one's self to a camera that has seen it's day isn't telling the day to day story of a presidential campaign any better than those photographer's using the most modern digital gear. I disagree. As I said above, there are a lot of pictures being made and Burnett's contribution offers some unique views and sophisticated photographic language. I am very happy he's doing what he is. It's stroking the ego of the photographer and it provides a hook for the photographer to sell to an editor. I can only assume that Mr. Burnett is working on a book project as getting 4"x5" images to a magazine or a daily newspaper is problematical these days. I'll bet his ego is the least of his motivations, but even if it were, then the pictures have to stand on their own, and I will bet they do. Good for him and whomever else is working on the campaigns I guess, it gives them work in a time when photojournalism as it was once practiced is virtually non-existent, just don't try and sell it as the best way to document a campaign, cause it ain't. Indeed, PJ seems to be a waning craft, but actually in terms of the numbers of essays it is still well represented. Stills simply hold a lesser _percentage_ of the mass media than they once did. But you know, I've never known a good and successful photojournalist who sought celebrity status, and that's a good thing. |
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You'd be the one to know about that Mr. Simmons.
Now go sell some more magazines. This is another off topic and ugly personal remark. Can you make a positive contribution to the conversation? steve simmons |
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You'd be the one to know about that Mr. Simmons.
Now go sell some more magazines. This is another off topic and ugly personal remark. Can you make a positive contribution to the conversation? steve simmons |
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Gordon Moat wrote:
: CamArtsMag wrote: : All of this discussion aboiut it can't be done is silly. David Burnett is : covering the campaign trial using a Speed Graphic and a variety of 4x5 films. : : steve simmons : Walter Ioos once covered a Super Bowl using a 4x5. Also, there was a project at : the previous Olympics that involved several photographers using 4x5, or larger : cameras. That was covered in PDN magazine. While it would seem that only : portraits might be done at those venues, there were actually quite a few action : shots. : I don't see why people would think it was difficult. Jacques Henri Lartigue was : doing action shots quite a long time ago. I saw a photographer with a 4x5 camera at a football game once. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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