Curious - who uses Dropbox?

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account as
a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

I'm trying to figure that point out. I have to move (by copying) my
files to the dropbox folder to have access to them from another
computer, right? Don't I have the same access to my files in my
SmugMug account or my Photobucket account? If I have to move files to
a folder and they are uploaded from that folder, then it's the same
thing as uploading to any photo host with access by name/password.
It's not like I have remote access to all computer files (which is
possible) and files that have not been uploaded.

In the context of an "on the road backup", you wouldn't want to upload
raw or large GPG's to SmugMug (etc.) as one usually puts culled and
edited (and smaller) images there.

DropBox is _not_ about photography, it is about _files_ and having
access to them wherever you may be and with whatever device might be handy.

I brought up the topic here - but not "about" photographic use per se.

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"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.

On 2012-02-26 10:40:04 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account as
a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

....and that is a reason I have gone with a Pogoplug device and an
unlimited cloud for the cost of the device and HD. If I need more than
the free 5GB on their server and I don't want to use my home "cloud" I
can pay for an extra 30GB for $4.95/mnth, or 100GB for $14.95/mnth for
the period of any trip, be one week or three.


I'm trying to figure that point out. I have to move (by copying) my
files to the dropbox folder to have access to them from another
computer, right? Don't I have the same access to my files in my
SmugMug account or my Photobucket account? If I have to move files to
a folder and they are uploaded from that folder, then it's the same
thing as uploading to any photo host with access by name/password.
It's not like I have remote access to all computer files (which is
possible) and files that have not been uploaded.

In the context of an "on the road backup", you wouldn't want to upload
raw or large GPG's to SmugMug (etc.) as one usually puts culled and
edited (and smaller) images there.

DropBox is _not_ about photography, it is about _files_ and having
access to them wherever you may be and with whatever device might be
handy.

I brought up the topic here - but not "about" photographic use per se.

Exactly. Both Dropbox and Pogoplug are not specifically photograph
storage and sharing systems.They are file access systems which can be
used in a variety of ways, including and not limited to backing up,
and/or sharing between multiple computers and wireless iOS/Android
devices.
....and that does not exclude cameras with WiFi features or a camera
using an Eye-Fi SD card using that as a means of getting RAW image
files to your "cloud" or computer.


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-02-26 14:32 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-02-26 10:40:04 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account
as a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

...and that is a reason I have gone with a Pogoplug device and an
unlimited cloud for the cost of the device and HD. If I need more than
the free 5GB on their server and I don't want to use my home "cloud" I
can pay for an extra 30GB for $4.95/mnth, or 100GB for $14.95/mnth for
the period of any trip, be one week or three.

I'll just continue storing the phots on the laptop when on the road.
Some hotels/motels we stay at would be hard pressed to support a 5 - 10
GB upload after a couple days of shooting. WiFi data rates are very
variable on the road. In Cuba it was simple though. There was none.
(The hotel had internet but other guests told me it couldn't even be
used for simple browsing or webmail - too slow).


--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.

On 2012-02-26 11:48:49 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 14:32 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-02-26 10:40:04 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account
as a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

...and that is a reason I have gone with a Pogoplug device and an
unlimited cloud for the cost of the device and HD. If I need more than
the free 5GB on their server and I don't want to use my home "cloud" I
can pay for an extra 30GB for $4.95/mnth, or 100GB for $14.95/mnth for
the period of any trip, be one week or three.

I'll just continue storing the phots on the laptop when on the road.
Some hotels/motels we stay at would be hard pressed to support a 5 - 10
GB upload after a couple days of shooting. WiFi data rates are very
variable on the road. In Cuba it was simple though. There was none.
(The hotel had internet but other guests told me it couldn't even be
used for simple browsing or webmail - too slow).

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-02-26 15:27 , Savageduck wrote:

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

I'd considered that (or similar) in the past (and discussed same with
you in the past as well IIRC). But since I/we always have a laptop in
any case, that would be yet another widget to deal with. On some trips
we're overloaded with such.

Usually when getting back in the car, just fire up the laptop and do the
upload while driving. (recharge batts, transfer files (2 - 3 cards)).
At the hotel room|bar review the phots, quick-edit/e-mail...

--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.

On 2012-02-26 20:27:10 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2012-02-26 11:48:49 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 14:32 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-02-26 10:40:04 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account
as a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

...and that is a reason I have gone with a Pogoplug device and an
unlimited cloud for the cost of the device and HD. If I need more than
the free 5GB on their server and I don't want to use my home "cloud" I
can pay for an extra 30GB for $4.95/mnth, or 100GB for $14.95/mnth for
the period of any trip, be one week or three.

I'll just continue storing the phots on the laptop when on the road.
Some hotels/motels we stay at would be hard pressed to support a 5 - 10
GB upload after a couple days of shooting. WiFi data rates are very
variable on the road. In Cuba it was simple though. There was none.
(The hotel had internet but other guests told me it couldn't even be
used for simple browsing or webmail - too slow).

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

Have I misunderstood something - aren't these drives around the same
price or more than a laptop?

In article 2012022621261765941-pete3attkins@nospamntlworldcom, Pete A
wrote:

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

Have I misunderstood something - aren't these drives around the same
price or more than a laptop?

which laptop fits in your pants pocket?

On 2012-02-26 13:12:16 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 15:27 , Savageduck wrote:

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

I'd considered that (or similar) in the past (and discussed same with
you in the past as well IIRC). But since I/we always have a laptop in
any case, that would be yet another widget to deal with. On some trips
we're overloaded with such.

Usually when getting back in the car, just fire up the laptop and do
the upload while driving. (recharge batts, transfer files (2 - 3
cards)). At the hotel room|bar review the phots, quick-edit/e-mail...

I just keep mine in my bag, or for the times I am feeling particularly
anal I can keep it in a vest pocket. I have few power issues with the
Colorspace UDMA, full and incremental saves are quick and a single
charge seems to last me months.

You are correct, I have explained my travel file saving protocol at
some length in the past. Several times. I just see the "cloud" systems
as a potential fourth redundancy along with the UDMA, my laptop, and an
outboard portable HD.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-02-26 13:26:17 -0800, Pete A said:

On 2012-02-26 20:27:10 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2012-02-26 11:48:49 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 14:32 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-02-26 10:40:04 -0800, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-02-26 09:24 , tony cooper wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:56:10 -0800, Savageduck

When on the road, it can be a way of backing up some, or all your image
files even if you are guest using a computer you might have access to.
By the same token, you would also have access to any files you have
maintained in your Dropbox folder.

For me that would require the more expensive 50 GB (or more) account
as a 1 week trip would amount to at least 25 GB of images.

...and that is a reason I have gone with a Pogoplug device and an
unlimited cloud for the cost of the device and HD. If I need more than
the free 5GB on their server and I don't want to use my home "cloud" I
can pay for an extra 30GB for $4.95/mnth, or 100GB for $14.95/mnth for
the period of any trip, be one week or three.

I'll just continue storing the phots on the laptop when on the road.
Some hotels/motels we stay at would be hard pressed to support a 5 - 10
GB upload after a couple days of shooting. WiFi data rates are very
variable on the road. In Cuba it was simple though. There was none.
(The hotel had internet but other guests told me it couldn't even be
used for simple browsing or webmail - too slow).

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

Have I misunderstood something - aren't these drives around the same
price or more than a laptop?


It is not there as a laptop replacement.

I have a 250GB Colorspace UDMA which cost me $300 in 2009. It serves
its purpose as I can drop it in my bag, or a vest pocket and not be
burdened with a laptop for initial backups. Those I will make make at
the hotel, lodge, camp, car or home. I can upgrade the drive upward
from 250GB myself if the need ever arose. Power usage is miserly and I
am assured of being able to make at least one backup at even the most
remote of sites.

There again I have all sorts of stuff which appeal to me and I seem to
find a use for, when others scratch their heads. ;-)

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-02-26 13:35:56 -0800, nospam said:

In article 2012022621261765941-pete3attkins@nospamntlworldcom, Pete A
wrote:

Another reason my primary "on the road" back up is my Hyperdrive
Colorspace UDMA. Quick and simple. It does incremental back ups making
it efficient and fast. Best of all, a computer does not have to be
involved.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-...-UDMA-s/64.htm

Have I misunderstood something - aren't these drives around the same
price or more than a laptop?

which laptop fits in your pants pocket?

The Colorspace UDMA might be a bit chunky for pants pockets. Perhaps OK
for a cargo pocket on good cargo pants, but still quite a lump.
I have a multi-pocket Columbia vest which serves my purposes for
appropriate sized pockets, and is very much a "grab and go" piece of
auxiliary clothing. That is one of the pockets I would use if I needed
to carry it in other than my bag.

--
Regards,

Savageduck