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Saturation and contrast are set to default; I may play with dropping down
the contrast a bit, but the saturation seems fine (to me). --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "WebKatz" wrote in message om... "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message igy.com... The noise issue hasn't been a problem for me; I set the camera to a -3 sharpness setting and do any needed sharpening (which isn't generally needed) later on. What do you have the other settings (saturation and contrast) set to? Thanks, Dave |
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I have used both Nimh and LiIons, I have to say LiIons are better performer.
LiIons do not lose power much when not used while Nimh lose 1.5%-3% daily. A nice feature on Sony F-series is you can see how many minutes you have left on the battery. I am sure other brands using LiIons can implement this without much trouble, but I doubt you can ever do this with Nimh, they just don't communicate with cameras much. Although you can get LiIons from ebay for $15-$25 apiece and that sounds reasonable, Nimh is way cheaper and easier to get, you are absolutely right about it. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message news.com... In article , says... Put your nimh idle for 2 weeks and then check how much power it has left, and do the same with BP-511, you will see the difference. Then there is charging time for flashes, memory effect, how accurate camera can detect the power level left in batteries. Nihm may be cheaper, but defenitely not the top performer. The memory effect for NiMH is very moderate; charging time for flashes should be low, as NiMHs can deliver high currents (not sure how LiIons perform under very heavy load. Concerning the storage, just recharge the batteries after a long idle period of time. Advantages of AA NiMH: - widely available everywhere; in case of emergency you can even run your camera with standard non-rechargeable AA batteries - low cost - no risk the proprietary battery won't be manufactured anymore one day -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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"WebKatz" wrote in message om... What do you have the other settings (saturation and contrast) set to? With firmware v77, I ran sharpness to -3 and 0 for the other two settings. Now that the firmware has been upgraded to v79, I find the camera sharpening is less aggressive and now set it to 0 as well. You will need to experiment with the settings to see which meets with your expectations. |
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I like dark green brown!
Tom P. "M. Souris" wrote in message ... But which has the prettiest color...? |
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"Q. Lu" wrote: I have used both Nimh and LiIons, I have to say LiIons are better performer. Not per dollar. LiIons do not lose power much when not used while Nimh lose 1.5%-3% daily. At 70F, nimh batteries only lose around 1% of the remaining power per day. It is rare that I even go a full week without using my digicam. A nice feature on Sony F-series is you can see how many minutes you have left on the battery. So what. I am sure other brands using LiIons can implement this without much trouble, but I doubt you can ever do this with Nimh, they just don't communicate with cameras much. Why do I need this? I never know in advance how much I will use the digicam in a day, so I will still need a few spare batteries. Although you can get LiIons from ebay for $15-$25 apiece Where? How many amp hours? Are they reliable? and that sounds reasonable, Nimh is way cheaper and easier to get, you are absolutely right about it. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message news.com... In article , says... Put your nimh idle for 2 weeks and then check how much power it has left, and do the same with BP-511, you will see the difference. Then there is charging time for flashes, memory effect, how accurate camera can detect the power level left in batteries. Nihm may be cheaper, but defenitely not the top performer. The memory effect for NiMH is very moderate; charging time for flashes should be low, as NiMHs can deliver high currents (not sure how LiIons perform under very heavy load. Concerning the storage, just recharge the batteries after a long idle period of time. Advantages of AA NiMH: - widely available everywhere; in case of emergency you can even run your camera with standard non-rechargeable AA batteries - low cost - no risk the proprietary battery won't be manufactured anymore one day -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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"JK" wrote in message
... "Q. Lu" wrote: I have used both Nimh and LiIons, I have to say LiIons are better performer. Not per dollar. I never said that. LiIons are more expensive. G3 is more than twice more expensive than a gateway 4 mp. How do you compare their performance per dollar? LiIons do not lose power much when not used while Nimh lose 1.5%-3% daily. At 70F, nimh batteries only lose around 1% of the remaining power per day. It is rare that I even go a full week without using my digicam. My nexell drain out in 2-3 weeks without usage. It is the spare batteries I was talking about. Say you prepare three sets of AA but only used one set in a day. After a week, you need to use the camera again, what do you do with the 2nd and third sets? What if the 3rd set is not used even after second time? Do you recharge it full or not? in case of LiIons, the spares sit in your bag a month or two and you don't have to think about it. A nice feature on Sony F-series is you can see how many minutes you have left on the battery. So what. Do you want your car tell you how much gas it has left in the tank? I am sure other brands using LiIons can implement this without much trouble, but I doubt you can ever do this with Nimh, they just don't communicate with cameras much. Why do I need this? I never know in advance how much I will use the digicam in a day, so I will still need a few spare batteries. Exactly my point. You don't know what is left so you have to prepare for many spares. And you rarely use all the spares, and they drain without usage. A waste of battery like. Although you can get LiIons from ebay for $15-$25 apiece Where? How many amp hours? Are they reliable? higher than the OEM and I found they last no shorter than OEM. If you go for the cheap nimh batteries, for about $1 each, you get less reliable batteries than what I am talking about. Check out the Canon and Sony forums on Dpreview and see how happy people are with LiIons. I used to pay $10/pack on 2CR5 batteries when I shot films and I wanted to use AA so much. Now I have used LiIons and Nimh AAs, I like LiIons better. Yes, they are more expensive, but they are much cheaper than the 2CR5 I used to buy, and I think the extra performance is worth it. and that sounds reasonable, Nimh is way cheaper and easier to get, you are absolutely right about it. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message news.com... In article , says... Put your nimh idle for 2 weeks and then check how much power it has left, and do the same with BP-511, you will see the difference. Then there is charging time for flashes, memory effect, how accurate camera can detect the power level left in batteries. Nihm may be cheaper, but defenitely not the top performer. The memory effect for NiMH is very moderate; charging time for flashes should be low, as NiMHs can deliver high currents (not sure how LiIons perform under very heavy load. Concerning the storage, just recharge the batteries after a long idle period of time. Advantages of AA NiMH: - widely available everywhere; in case of emergency you can even run your camera with standard non-rechargeable AA batteries - low cost - no risk the proprietary battery won't be manufactured anymore one day -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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In article ,
says... I never said that. LiIons are more expensive. G3 is more than twice more expensive than a gateway 4 mp. How do you compare their performance per dollar? A 2300 mAH set of 4 NiMh has over 11 WH of energy (vs. 8 Wh for the Canon G3 LiIon battery) and is cheaper. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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Simply comparing wh numbers doesn't give you the full picture. With the same
set of Nimh AA, Minolta 5/7 series only give you 1/3 number of shots as you can get on a C5050. It is a combination of camera efficiency/battery wh# that determines battery life. As you pointed out, there are 2300mAH AA now. There are also higher mah LiIon's now. You can get 1400mah replacement for NP-FM50 or BP-511 for $15-$25 on eBay. In case of camcorders, you can even get 3600mah replacements. In any case, Nimh AAs is a good and cheap way to go. LiIon has its own advantage on performance, otherwise they wouldn't be used on almost all high end models. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message news.com... In article , says... I never said that. LiIons are more expensive. G3 is more than twice more expensive than a gateway 4 mp. How do you compare their performance per dollar? A 2300 mAH set of 4 NiMh has over 11 WH of energy (vs. 8 Wh for the Canon G3 LiIon battery) and is cheaper. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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"Q. Lu" wrote: "JK" wrote in message ... "Q. Lu" wrote: I have used both Nimh and LiIons, I have to say LiIons are better performer. Not per dollar. I never said that. LiIons are more expensive. G3 is more than twice more expensive than a gateway 4 mp. How do you compare their performance per dollar? LiIons do not lose power much when not used while Nimh lose 1.5%-3% daily. At 70F, nimh batteries only lose around 1% of the remaining power per day. It is rare that I even go a full week without using my digicam. My nexell drain out in 2-3 weeks without usage. It is the spare batteries I was talking about. Say you prepare three sets of AA but only used one set in a day. After a week, you need to use the camera again, what do you do with the 2nd and third sets? What if the 3rd set is not used even after second time? At 70F, the batteries retain 3/4 of their charge if not used for a month, and 55% if not used for two months. At 100F, the batteries would lose 25% of the charge in just 10 days. My usual procedure is to rotate through six sets of batteries. It is rare that one of these six sets goes unused for more than a month. The batteries are usually kept at a cool temperature except when I am out for the day shooting during the summer. During the summer it is rare that I don't rotate through the six sets within ten days. I don't have a need to charge batteries that have not been used since the last charge. For those who don't use their cameras often, and who are in a hot climate and don't have air conditioning, this may be more of an issue. I also have more than three chargers, and typically charge up to three sets of batteries at a time. Do you recharge it full or not? in case of LiIons, the spares sit in your bag a month or two and you don't have to think about it. A nice feature on Sony F-series is you can see how many minutes you have left on the battery. So what. Do you want your car tell you how much gas it has left in the tank? The car has only one gas tank. One can have a few sets of batteries. I am sure other brands using LiIons can implement this without much trouble, but I doubt you can ever do this with Nimh, they just don't communicate with cameras much. Why do I need this? I never know in advance how much I will use the digicam in a day, so I will still need a few spare batteries. Exactly my point. You don't know what is left so you have to prepare for many spares. No, I don't know how much I will use the camera, so I need a few spares. I would need a few spares even if the camera indicated how much power was left in the batteries. And you rarely use all the spares, I rarely use all of them in a single day, but usually rotate through them in a week or two. and they drain without usage. Not much at moderate temperatures. I rarely need to charge a battery that has not been used since the last charge. At 70F the batteries have 75% of the charge if not used for a whole month. A waste of battery like. Although you can get LiIons from ebay for $15-$25 apiece Where? How many amp hours? Are they reliable? higher than the OEM and I found they last no shorter than OEM. If you go for the cheap nimh batteries, for about $1 each, you get less reliable batteries than what I am talking about. There are reliable nimh batteries at around $1.50-$2 each though. Check out the Canon and Sony forums on Dpreview and see how happy people are with LiIons. I used to pay $10/pack on 2CR5 batteries when I shot films and I wanted to use AA so much. Now I have used LiIons and Nimh AAs, I like LiIons better. Yes, they are more expensive, but they are much cheaper than the 2CR5 I used to buy, and I think the extra performance is worth it. and that sounds reasonable, Nimh is way cheaper and easier to get, you are absolutely right about it. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message news.com... In article , says... Put your nimh idle for 2 weeks and then check how much power it has left, and do the same with BP-511, you will see the difference. Then there is charging time for flashes, memory effect, how accurate camera can detect the power level left in batteries. Nihm may be cheaper, but defenitely not the top performer. The memory effect for NiMH is very moderate; charging time for flashes should be low, as NiMHs can deliver high currents (not sure how LiIons perform under very heavy load. Concerning the storage, just recharge the batteries after a long idle period of time. Advantages of AA NiMH: - widely available everywhere; in case of emergency you can even run your camera with standard non-rechargeable AA batteries - low cost - no risk the proprietary battery won't be manufactured anymore one day -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 4040 resource - http://www.molon.de/4040.html Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html |
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