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Old October 6th 04, 03:16 PM
Nick Zentena
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Jim Phelps wrote:


Yup. That's in that list of 'accoutrements'. I bid on some on that auction
site. Guy even had the loader for sale. But, it wasn't in the cards for me
that day. I'll keep looking.



They often seem to sell for more used then new. Add the risk of getting
the older model that supposedly doesn't work that well and I've given up and
trying to find an extra reel on the auction site.

Nick
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Old October 6th 04, 03:16 PM
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jjs wrote:


Right outside my house is a Jobo ATL2 awaiting trash pickup. Boxes of tubes
and bottles, too. Hope the trash guys don't charge me extra to take it
away.



Tubes? Could they be print tanks? I'd kill for a couple extra-))

Nick
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Old October 6th 04, 03:21 PM
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In article ,
(Mark Cudworth) wrote:

Just being pedantic, but positrons are anti-matter and can't exist in an
uranium (or any other kind of) atom. Matter can't "lose" anti-matter the
way atoms can shed electrons.


Probably was thinking Protons.

Question does antimatter collect positive matter
until it reaches some sort of
stasis thereby becoming positive itself?

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Old October 6th 04, 07:48 PM
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Mark Cudworth wrote:


Just being pedantic, but positrons are anti-matter and can't exist in an
uranium (or any other kind of) atom. Matter can't "lose" anti-matter the
way atoms can shed electrons.


Well, in fact, there are radioisotopes that decay with positron emission
-- they're the source for Positrom Emission Tomography imaging, a system
usually used to pinpoint energy usage by locating tagged glucose (used
for tracing activity in the brain, mostly).

I don't offhand recall what decay event emits a positron, other than
that it's not a common one like alpha (helium nucleus) or beta-
(electron) emission. It's a combination of energy-matter exchange
(creation of a particle, usually from released binding energy) and
charge conservation that does it. A neutron decaying to a proton (as
when tritium decays to helium-3) emits an electron; I think I remember
either a positive muon or positive pion can decay with positron
emission, and IIRC these particles are produced by some alpha or beta
emissions -- this is all very hazy, I'm not a physicist or medical
imaging technician, who would know this stuff. There are also cases
where a gamma ray photon can convert to an electron-positron pair (often
with a much lower energy photon, neutrino, etc. "left over"), an
activity typically associated with an annihilation event.

In any case, while a decaying nucleus doesn't directly emit positrons as
it can electrons, there certainly are decay events related to common
radioactivity that do emit positrons as part of a particle decay series.

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Old October 6th 04, 07:48 PM
Donald Qualls
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Mark Cudworth wrote:


Just being pedantic, but positrons are anti-matter and can't exist in an
uranium (or any other kind of) atom. Matter can't "lose" anti-matter the
way atoms can shed electrons.


Well, in fact, there are radioisotopes that decay with positron emission
-- they're the source for Positrom Emission Tomography imaging, a system
usually used to pinpoint energy usage by locating tagged glucose (used
for tracing activity in the brain, mostly).

I don't offhand recall what decay event emits a positron, other than
that it's not a common one like alpha (helium nucleus) or beta-
(electron) emission. It's a combination of energy-matter exchange
(creation of a particle, usually from released binding energy) and
charge conservation that does it. A neutron decaying to a proton (as
when tritium decays to helium-3) emits an electron; I think I remember
either a positive muon or positive pion can decay with positron
emission, and IIRC these particles are produced by some alpha or beta
emissions -- this is all very hazy, I'm not a physicist or medical
imaging technician, who would know this stuff. There are also cases
where a gamma ray photon can convert to an electron-positron pair (often
with a much lower energy photon, neutrino, etc. "left over"), an
activity typically associated with an annihilation event.

In any case, while a decaying nucleus doesn't directly emit positrons as
it can electrons, there certainly are decay events related to common
radioactivity that do emit positrons as part of a particle decay series.

--
I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
-- E. J. Fudd, 1954

Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.
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Old October 6th 04, 08:45 PM
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Donald Qualls writes:

Well, in fact, there are radioisotopes that decay with positron emission


Good grief! Yes, I understand all kinds of neat things can be created by
nuclear decay (or destruction). I was responding to a poster who (in
jest) asked if losing a positron would make uranium more negative.
Sub-atomic decay isn't a method by which atoms change their ionic state.

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Old October 6th 04, 09:02 PM
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"Mark Cudworth" wrote in message
...
Donald Qualls writes:

Well, in fact, there are radioisotopes that decay with positron emission


Good grief! Yes, I understand all kinds of neat things can be created by
nuclear decay (or destruction). I was responding to a poster who (in
jest) asked if losing a positron would make uranium more negative.


No, I was suggesting that Uranium Subcommittee (who is really Mike
Scarpitti) was negative because he lost a positron. Now, don't you agree
that Mr. Uranium is made of anti-matter?


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Old October 6th 04, 09:54 PM
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In article , "jjs"
wrote:

Mr. Uranium is made of anti-matter?


More like doesn't matter.

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Old October 6th 04, 10:24 PM
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jjs wrote:

"Mark Cudworth" wrote in message
...

Donald Qualls writes:

Well, in fact, there are radioisotopes that decay with positron emission


Good grief! Yes, I understand all kinds of neat things can be created by
nuclear decay (or destruction). I was responding to a poster who (in
jest) asked if losing a positron would make uranium more negative.



No, I was suggesting that Uranium Subcommittee (who is really Mike
Scarpitti) was negative because he lost a positron. Now, don't you agree
that Mr. Uranium is made of anti-matter?



I was just figuring (in an Asimovian sort of way) that would mean he was
a few positrons shy of a brain...

--
I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
-- E. J. Fudd, 1954

Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.
 




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