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Old August 23rd 06, 11:06 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??

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Old August 23rd 06, 08:19 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??

The _best_ way is to use a dry mounting press but they
are not inexpensive. I think you can do nearly as good a job
using a flat iron. The idea is to dry out the base but not
the emulsion. You will need some dry mounting release
tissue, some thick paper like "kraft" paper, and a flat
weight large enough to cover the print. The weight is the
key. Ideally, it should be of sheet aluminum but I've had
good results with plain plywood.
The technique using a press is first to dry out the kraft
paper by placing it in the press for a couple of minutes.
Without the press just iron it with the iron on its lowest
heat setting. Once dry, make a sandwich by laying the print
image side facing the release tissue and a couple of sheets
of the dry kraft paper on the support side. Some additional
sheets of kraft paper can be put on the other side of the
releast tissue as a cushion. Now, with the press this entire
sandwich is placed in the press for about two minutes and
then placed under the flat weight until cool. Without the
press iron the back of the print through the kraft paper
until it smooths out and then put the sandwich under the
weight. This technique will give you flat prints with an
even surface that stay flat.
Prints curl because the emulsion and support swell at
different rates from the moisture in them. RC prints can
curl up prett badly in very dry weather because the emulsion
side shrinks. Fiber prints curl because the support shrinks
of expands at a different rate than the emulsion but, since
both are shrinking or expanding, the curl can actually be
less than for RC. The drying process using the press or iron
tends to even out the shrinkage.
A traditional way of straightening fiber prints is to run
them over a stright edge. This works but can damage both the
emulsion and the "baryta" layer on which its coated; I don't
recommend it.
Badly curled prints can often be straightened by soaking
them in water until limp and then drying by hanging back to
back.



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Old August 23rd 06, 11:30 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Old August 24th 06, 04:46 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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I was fortunate to find a couple book-binder presses. They are quite heavy
and expensive to ship, so keep an eye out for them in your area.


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Old August 24th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??

1. whipe the water of with an old windscreen wiper or something lijke tahe
2.put the photo upside down (pixture side down) on a towel, better is
plastic wire-netting in a rathre cold envitement to have a slow dry proces.
3. when the photo is (nearly) dry, make the backside (non picture side)
moist (NOT WET), then put the photo in between two old photos and place a
peace of platified board (3/4" or more) with on it.
After 24 hours the photo is flat.I#m doing this for about 45 years.
Sorry for the english, it is not my first language.
greetings,
Hans

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Old August 24th 06, 06:55 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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I've tried all this.
Definitely the best and cheapest way is to buy some aquareltape (which glues
when it is wet) and put the print wet on a piece of glass. Then wipe it off
and tape at the borders. After 1 day, cut off the borders with a knife and
you have the most flat print you've seen.

Freek van Holten.
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Old August 25th 06, 06:42 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Freek van Holten wrote:
I've tried all this.
Definitely the best and cheapest way is to buy some aquareltape (which glues
when it is wet) and put the print wet on a piece of glass. Then wipe it off
and tape at the borders. After 1 day, cut off the borders with a knife and
you have the most flat print you've seen.

Freek van Holten.
schreef in bericht
ups.com...
least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??


Tape the back side of the print to the glass??

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Old August 26th 06, 02:12 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Freek van Holten wrote:
I've tried all this.
Definitely the best and cheapest way is to buy some
aquareltape (which glues
when it is wet) and put the print wet on a piece of
glass. Then wipe it off
and tape at the borders. After 1 day, cut off the borders
with a knife and
you have the most flat print you've seen.

Freek van Holten.
schreef in bericht
ups.com...
least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??


Tape the back side of the print to the glass??



Yes, if you put the print emulsion side against the glass
it will stick and can't be removed without damage.


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Old August 26th 06, 08:54 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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"Freek van Holten" wrote in message
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I've tried all this.
Definitely the best and cheapest way is to buy some aquareltape (which
glues when it is wet) and put the print wet on a piece of glass. Then wipe
it off and tape at the borders. After 1 day, cut off the borders with a
knife and you have the most flat print you've seen.


interesting, but what if the print is full. ie, the paper has no border?
does this tape remove itself from the print/paper, without damaging the
print?


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Old August 27th 06, 10:58 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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least expensive and easiest way to flatten prints??


From years gone by I've brought forward the blotter
stack method. Corrugated board, blotter material, and prints
are alternately stacked then some pressure added at top.
An innovation on my part is the use of a hydrophobic
material for the blotters. Not fast but the prints come out with
no weaving and only a modest sectional cylindrical look to
them. Maybe $15 for a bunch of 8x10s. Dan

 




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