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Old December 22nd 08, 10:08 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Paul Furman
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J.Lef wrote:
Thanks to everyone for all the information. The prices have
really gone down to almost nothing. I always thought they would grow in
value, but then the digital age came in. I found one box so far, and here
is whats in it, and not sue what one thing is.

A Nikon black camera that has in the front of body, on the
silver portion, a large letter F outlined, with lower down in black a
solid Nikon. ( I know its a 35mm)


That's called the Nikon F :-)
Has sold for $75 to $300 on ebay recently.


It is in a two piece case, thats brown leather marked Nikon,
with a crushed red velvet interior. The camera stays in the lower portion
protected, and the bulbous top piece snapps off. It has a strap. (It all
appears to be leather)

Still attached is a lens with cover, that says Lens made in
Japan.
It has lots of number markings on the outside, and the front part of the
inside describes the lens as a " Zoom-NIKKOR Auto 1:3.5
f=43mm(tilda)f=86 Nippon Kogaku
Japan No. 456144


http://www.photodo.com/product_1148_p3.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=43-86mm
Has sold for $20 to $80 on ebay recently.


There appears to be film in it also, as the counter is on 4.

Also a small square brown package that says Nikon Focusing Screen Type F
Made in Japan. And inside the cardboard box, is a square black frame with a
square lens inside, protected by a form fitting thick spongelike protection.
I have no idea what this is used for.

Also another lens(or something) thats in a cylindrical type case, with a
zipper half way down. It appears to be black, but I am not sure if its
leather. The make on top of case says KIRON
Inside is something I am not sure what it is, it looks like a double
sided lens.
It has two protective lens caps on either side. Everything is black metal.
It says on it. KIRON MC7 2X TELECONVERTER FOR N/A1 JAPAN


Third party brand focal length doubler, probably worth nothing, maybe
fun to play with.


Also found a gift I received maybee ten or more years ago, but
only once used.
It looks like a 35mm point and shoot camera by LEICA.
Its a rectangle, grey colored, a bit larger then todays
digital camers. It has a Red Ball on fron with the Leica name in script in
a gold color. It is raised, not painted.
The camera is called the Leica mini, and says near the
lens Leica Elmar
1:3.5/35 manufactured in Japan, with a serial number.
I remember using it for a roll or two, but I had a fuji
which I was very satisfied with. Oh year, the Leica has a soft leather or
leatherette carying case.


http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00DzfS

Well thats box number one Sorry if I wrote too much. Any
feedback apprecited.
Much regards


Keep digging!


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Old December 22nd 08, 10:22 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Paul Furman wrote:
J.Lef wrote:

... I found one box so
far, and here is whats in it, and not sue what one thing is.

A Nikon black camera that has in the front of body,
on the silver portion, a large letter F outlined, with lower down in
black a solid Nikon. ( I know its a 35mm)


That's called the Nikon F :-)
Has sold for $75 to $300 on ebay recently.


Listed on KEH for $199 to $899.


It is in a two piece case, thats brown leather marked
Nikon, with a crushed red velvet interior. The camera stays in the
lower portion protected, and the bulbous top piece snapps off. It has
a strap. (It all appears to be leather)

Still attached is a lens with cover, that says Lens made
in Japan.
It has lots of number markings on the outside, and the front part of
the inside describes the lens as a " Zoom-NIKKOR Auto 1:3.5
f=43mm(tilda)f=86 Nippon Kogaku
Japan No. 456144


http://www.photodo.com/product_1148_p3.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=43-86mm
Has sold for $20 to $80 on ebay recently.


Listed on KEH for $23 to $99.


Well thats box number one Sorry if I wrote too much.
Any feedback apprecited.


Keep digging!



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Old December 23rd 08, 01:55 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Ken Hart1
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"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
Bill Graham wrote:

Try KEH to check up on the value of your lenses......


Just remember that KEH sells every lens as being optically perfect with
no scratches on the glass, fungus, and the diaphragms and focusing are
in good working order. They also include a 2 week return privledge
and a 90 day warranty.

Considering that it costs at least $100 to have someone CLA (clean, lube,
adjust) a camera if you have to pay "retail" for the work, in many cases,
the return privledge and warranty are worth more than the item.

For example, if the original Nikon F was stored in an airtight container,
and has no moisture, fungus, corrosion, or other damage, the felt light
seals have probably disintegrated, the grease has hardened and so on.

A good CLA would bring it back to life, but it is unlikely that anyone
will pay you near KEH's price for it without the work.

If it needs real parts and real work, it may simply be not worth fixing,
except for sentimental reasons.

BTW, for some strange reason, cameras and lenses sold with a time-honored
"Caveat Emptor" warranty on eBay, sometimes go for 20% MORE than KEH
sells
them.

I think people are either ignorant of KEH, or are put off by their
realistic
grading system, while things sold on eBay are often overstated.

Geoff.


Yes. Virtually all of my Nikkors have been purchased through KEH, and most
of them were their "bargain" grade. They have all given me great service,
and some of them looked (to me) as if they were brand new. For my money,
KEH is the best used camera store there is. Certainly it is the best on
line store I have found for used photographic equipment.


I would echo Mr Mendelson and Mr Graham with regard to KEH. Their grading
system IMHO, is rated low. I have bought a couple of "bargain" pieces, and
was very pleased with the items.


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Old December 23rd 08, 02:02 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"J.Lef" wrote in message
...
Thanks to everyone for all the information. The prices have
really gone down to almost nothing. I always thought they would grow in
value, but then the digital age came in. I found one box so far, and
here is whats in it, and not sue what one thing is.

A Nikon black camera that has in the front of body, on the
silver portion, a large letter F outlined, with lower down in black a
solid Nikon. ( I know its a 35mm)

It is in a two piece case, thats brown leather marked Nikon,
with a crushed red velvet interior. The camera stays in the lower portion
protected, and the bulbous top piece snapps off. It has a strap. (It all
appears to be leather)


Generally referred to as an "ever-ready case"

Still attached is a lens with cover, that says Lens made in
Japan.
It has lots of number markings on the outside, and the front part of the
inside describes the lens as a " Zoom-NIKKOR Auto 1:3.5
f=43mm(tilda)f=86 Nippon Kogaku
Japan No. 456144

There appears to be film in it also, as the counter is on 4.


Maybe, maybe not. The counter will advance with the winder lever whether
there is film in it or not. Try turning the rewind crank clockwise(the knob
at the other end of the camera from the film advance). If it stops turning,
then there is film in the camera.

Also a small square brown package that says Nikon Focusing Screen Type F
Made in Japan. And inside the cardboard box, is a square black frame with
a square lens inside, protected by a form fitting thick spongelike
protection.
I have no idea what this is used for.


The focus screen is what you see when you look into the viewfinder. This
model apparently has an interchangeble focus screen- you can switch out the
one in the camera with the one in the box.

Also another lens(or something) thats in a cylindrical type case, with a
zipper half way down. It appears to be black, but I am not sure if its
leather. The make on top of case says KIRON
Inside is something I am not sure what it is, it looks like a
double sided lens.
It has two protective lens caps on either side. Everything is black metal.
It says on it. KIRON MC7 2X TELECONVERTER FOR N/A1 JAPAN


You can remove the lens from the camera, mount the teleconverter, than mount
the lens onto the teleconverter. The focal length of the lens is now doubled
(but the light is cut in half).

Also found a gift I received maybee ten or more years ago,
but only once used.
It looks like a 35mm point and shoot camera by LEICA.
Its a rectangle, grey colored, a bit larger then todays
digital camers. It has a Red Ball on fron with the Leica name in script
in a gold color. It is raised, not painted.
The camera is called the Leica mini, and says near the
lens Leica Elmar
1:3.5/35 manufactured in Japan, with a serial number.
I remember using it for a roll or two, but I had a fuji
which I was very satisfied with. Oh year, the Leica has a soft leather or
leatherette carying case.


I think they call that "re-gifting"!

Well thats box number one Sorry if I wrote too much. Any
feedback apprecited.
Much regards



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Old December 23rd 08, 08:24 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
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J.Lef wrote:
A Nikon black camera that has in the front of body, on the
silver portion, a large letter F outlined, with lower down in black a
solid Nikon. ( I know its a 35mm)


That is as everyone said, a Nikon F camera. The big question is what type
of meter does it have?

Here is a good description of F finders.

http://www.cameraquest.com/nfinder.htm

But the question is also how old is it.

If the serial number starts with less than 64, it's the old style mirror box
and should not have a meter on it at all.

The serial numbers did not start with the year of manufacture, but they
ended up being close enough that you can assume they are.

All of them used obsolete mercury batteries and need to be adjusted to
use alkelines, There are some replacments that don't need adjustment,
but they are hard to find and expensive.

If the camera looks untouched, or close to it, it may have value to
a collector. If it has scratches, fungus, etc, it will not.


Note that as far as film cameras go these days, Nikon F cameras of any
type that work are still useable, and still wanted. The demand is not
high, and the RETAIL price of making them work is more than what they are worth.

Places like KEH make money because they buy them cheap and make no profit
directly on the repairs. The cost of checking them out, cleaning and adjusting
them is included in the difference in price between what they pay and what
they sell them for.

If for example, KEH sells them for $100, then expect to get between $50 and
$25 from them depending upon the condition of the camera.

I know that's not much, but they have to make a living, pay their repair
people and still sell the cameras at a price people will pay.

It has lots of number markings on the outside, and the front part of the
inside describes the lens as a " Zoom-NIKKOR Auto 1:3.5
f=43mm(tilda)f=86 Nippon Kogaku
Japan No. 456144


This was Nikon's first zoom lens and it is considered the only bad lens they
ever made. It has lots of distortion and was a poor seller. For you that
may be a good thing, the less sold, the more valuable they are.


It has two protective lens caps on either side. Everything is black metal.
It says on it. KIRON MC7 2X TELECONVERTER FOR N/A1 JAPAN


Kiron was an independent lens manufacturer. They made the early 1980's
Vivitar Series lenses which are excelent. Around 1985 or so, they went out
on their own, which AFIK dates the teleconverter. By 1987 they had gone
bankrupt and were gone.

It's not a valuable item, but useful. It also shows me that the camera
was in use in the mid 1980's.

As to the value of the items, I think they don't have much cash value.
If they look like they have never been out of their boxes (and the boxes
are included), some collector in Japan might want them. If the look used,
$50-$100 would about what they can be sold for.

You might find someone who is looking exactly for those items and will pay
more. Anyone who wants to use them will expect to have to pay for cleaning,
etc and will pay less.

If you don't want to keep them for sentimental reasons, you might find a
better reception for them at a local art school. A student, lacking money,
may want them and will gladly use them, even if the shutter speeds are off
or the light seals leak.

On the other hand, if you can find someone who will do a CLA (cleaning,
lube, adjust), etc, for a reasonable amount of money, you can get a
good useable camera out of it, even if as you said in the first post,
the meter is broken (and can not be easily repaired).

Geoff.

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Old December 23rd 08, 06:40 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
J.Lef
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Once again, thanks to all, for responding to my query in such
detail.
I am getting near that "retirement age" and have started trying to
reduce my clutter, accumulated over the years.
There is sentimental value in the camera, but neither I nor any one
in my family, has any interest in the camera as far as using it. My children
are all very much attuned to digital photography.
At those prices, I would not bother going to the time to sell them,
and if I decide, will try and find maybee a local photographer who could use
the equiptment, or a student who would like this type of equipment, and I
have assurance he(or she) would not resell it . Or maybee barter for some
family portraits with the camera as a rememberence.
For a serious student in need, I would be willing to have the camera
cleaned and put into condition. The camera appears to be just like it was
decades ago. No dirt , dust, film, microbes, algaes, molds, etc.
Anyone know of a good place to have this done in Manhattan, or
N.Y.C. tristate area?

Much regards


 




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