If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
On Jul 25, 10:59 pm, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote: UC wrote: On Jul 16, 4:23 pm, wrote: I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks The film is at least 30 years old. Throw it away. I have successfully developed 30+ yr old C-22 film that was stored in a hot attic for at least 20 of those years. And Film Rescue uses more refined techniques than I did. Francis A. Miniter WHY bother with 30-year old film? |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
UC wrote:
On Jul 25, 10:59 pm, "Francis A. Miniter" wrote: UC wrote: On Jul 16, 4:23 pm, wrote: I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks The film is at least 30 years old. Throw it away. I have successfully developed 30+ yr old C-22 film that was stored in a hot attic for at least 20 of those years. And Film Rescue uses more refined techniques than I did. Francis A. Miniter WHY bother with 30-year old film? To find out what was on the film? You have to have a sense of adventure! Maybe it shows Gerald Ford's golf ball hitting a spectator. Francis A. Miniter |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
On Jul 25, 10:44 am, UC wrote:
On Jul 16, 4:23 pm, wrote: I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks The film is at least 30 years old. Throw it away. No way. The adventure are in the rescue of old processes. |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
On Jul 26, 11:42 am, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote: UC wrote: On Jul 25, 10:59 pm, "Francis A. Miniter" wrote: UC wrote: On Jul 16, 4:23 pm, wrote: I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks The film is at least 30 years old. Throw it away. I have successfully developed 30+ yr old C-22 film that was stored in a hot attic for at least 20 of those years. And Film Rescue uses more refined techniques than I did. Francis A. Miniter WHY bother with 30-year old film? To find out what was on the film? You have to have a sense of adventure! Maybe it shows Gerald Ford's golf ball hitting a spectator. Francis A. Miniter- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Talking about my tests (using my poor english) 1- Using D-76 Developer - I can see shadows, but have a heavy fog. I try to use the E-6 and C41 Bleach... They remove de emulsion 2- Usind ID-11 - Nothing.... 3- Using C-41 Developer in 37.8º C - Remove the emulsion I will try again, using C41 developer in 25ºC ......5 rolls destroyed, have only more 25 Talking about chemicals The brutal difference between Our coutries is the facility to find some products. The CD-3 Is impossible to find in Brasil, and Metol too In all of my tests, i need to look hard and find a way to locate and buy the reagents. Sometimes i find big problems In these weekend i will make more tests, and post the results here |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
"Rod Smith" wrote in message ... In article .com, writes: The purpouse is only experimental. I have no idea on what waiting of the developing. My hobby is to buy lots of old films to "make myself" dead processes, like C-22 and ECN-2 Although C-22 can reasonably be described as a "dead" process, it being 30+ years since it was replaced by C-41, ECN-2 is current. It's still used by modern motion picture films. If you're interested in experimenting with it, check this APUG post: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum216/...orial-use.html That post includes a set of formulas for ECN-2 chemistry along with directions for use. You could conceivably find some good deals on "short ends" -- unused bits of motion picture films that are too short to be of interest to movie studios but long enough to be cut into rolls for use in 35mm still cameras. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, several outfits in the US bought up such film and resold it to still photographers, but AFAIK they all switched to C-41 films in the early 1990s. My own experience is that C-41 films are superior for still photography, presumably because of the contrast issues mentioned in the discussions area of the link I presented. Still, if you want to experiment with unusual processes, this one might be worth trying. You'll also be able to find in-date ECN-2 film -- a claim that can't be made for C-22 film any more! -- Rod Smith, http://www.rodsbooks.com Author of books on Linux, FreeBSD, and networking The "short ends" could actually be quite a bit of film. Producers commonly "bank" film, that is, buy a lot of film with the same lot number to insure uniformity and the ability to intercut without mismatches. Kodak claims their consistency is good enough so this is not necessary any longer but I think its still a practice. In any case, once photography is finished the left over film becomes a liability and is sold off. For many years there have been dealers who specialized in buying up this left over film and selling it to small producers, amateurs, or cutting it up for still cameras. For a long time most motion picture color film, at least Kodak film, had an anti-halation and anti-static backing called Rem-Jet. This backing was removed in the automatic processing machines by a jets of hot water sprayed onto the film before it entered the development section. When these films are developed in a normal "one hour" machine on in a home processing tank the backing comes off during processing leaving a hard to remove gummy black residue all over the machine. This backing is no longer used on most current motion picture stock although its still found on Kodachrome. -- --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
#27
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
Щт Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:23:50 -0700, observador1970 цкщеу:
I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks 高    фкшуд зкщÑуыыщк -- http://www.vedantasite.org |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
C-22 Process
On 2007-07-16 16:23:50 -0400, said:
I gained 30 rolls of Kodakolor X negative film, and use some rolls in my Rolleiflex, but this film are developed in the C-22 process, and i have no idea how to develop. Somebody knows some alternative developing process for this film? Thanks You can get it processed at Rocky Mountain Film labs: http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/ Michael |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Cannot process Raw | Miles | Digital Photography | 7 | February 11th 06 10:05 AM |
History of C41 Process? | Joseph Kewfi | 35mm Photo Equipment | 19 | April 12th 05 04:43 AM |
Process Lenses, again | Bandicoot | Large Format Photography Equipment | 2 | February 26th 05 03:29 PM |
How a Lab Process the NEG? | narke | Film & Labs | 4 | February 4th 05 08:10 AM |
C-41 process? | MXP | In The Darkroom | 6 | October 2nd 04 11:04 PM |