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  #11  
Old June 23rd 18, 11:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:35:13 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 23/06/2018 12:27, Savageduck wrote:
[]
OK! That pretty much confirns that a problem exists.

I guess you have to go through a bunch of diagnostic checks to see if this is
an LR CCC, or Win10 only issue, or a conflict between the two. Then there is
the hardware to be considered, an issue with the right side display, or
cables, or a possible issue with your graphics card.

Did you update both LR CCC and Win10 at the same time, or has the Win10
update been in use for other stuff before dealing with LR CCC?

Do you use the dual screen for other stuff, and if so, does this problem
manifest itself in anyway?

Can you flip the left and right screens to check if the problem will move to
the left?

At this stage I can only wish you luck.


For what it's worth, I'm running two dual-monitor systems with the
latest Windows-10 updates and seeing no problems at all. One system has
an dual-monitor graphics card, and the other three video outputs on the
motherboard. If the problem persists when move e.g. a Notepad display
from one monitor to the other, perhaps the second monitor is no longer
running in its native resolution?


The problems seem only to occur with LR CCC. Both monitors are
definitely running in their native resolution.

I agree with all the Duck's suggestions.

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #12  
Old June 23rd 18, 11:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 10:43:41 -0400, nospam
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In article , Ron C
wrote:

Anyway, I did a search on 1803 blurry and found a bunch of stuff.
Here's a clip from one:
~~
1803 has a new feature that can help alleviate the problem. To fix a
blurry app head to Settings System Display Advanced scaling
settings and flip the ³Let Windows try to fix apps so they¹re not
blurry² switch to On.
~~


that is hilarious.


.... while yours is unhelpful.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #13  
Old June 23rd 18, 11:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Jun 23, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:27:03 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

--- snip ---

I have just found that 'Print Screen' has changed fromCtrl-PrtScreen to
Prt Screen. Here is the result of both screens being
printed as one
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7wwgk2djh...oblem.jpg?dl=0


OK! That pretty much confirns that a problem exists.

I guess you have to go through a bunch of diagnostic checks to see if this
is an LR CCC, or Win10 only issue, or a conflict between the two. Then there is
the hardware to be considered, an issue with the right side display, or
cables, or a possible issue with your graphics card.


It seems to be a problem confined to LR. What I have found out since
is that it seems to be a problem unpacking the apparently compressed
image sent to the second screen. Some times if I wait the sharpness
will suddenly jump to the next stage or even run to completion.
Sometimes this will be triggered by an action in LR.

Did you update both LR CCC and Win10 at the same time, or has the Win10
update been in use for other stuff before dealing with LR CCC?


Win10 first, several weeks ago. LR yesterday. Win10 seems to be acting
much the same as ever (except for the changes).

Do you use the dual screen for other stuff, and if so, does this problem
manifest itself in anyway?


Apart from image processing, the main time that I am using both
screens together I have Fire Fox on the left hand screen and Agent
(news reader and email) on the right hand screen. Often something
which comes in through Agent triggers a URL which needs Fire Fox. All
that seems to be working OK.

Can you flip the left and right screens to check if the problem will move to
the left?


I used to be able to do that. I haven't yet found where it has gone to
in W10. I will try it when I find it.

Later: I found it but as soon as I start it up the fuzzy LR display
dissapears. I'm back to a single display.


Just to confirm; with the displays switched left to right, the dual display
is no longer available to you?

My conclusions so far a

1. It's not a hardware problem.

2. It is confined to LR CCC and seems to be in the software.


So there is probably an LR CCC/Win10 conflict related to the dual display
usage.

I may have to resort to Adobe. :-(


Good luck :-(

--

Regards,
Savageduck

  #14  
Old June 23rd 18, 11:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Anyway, I did a search on 1803 blurry and found a bunch of stuff.
Here's a clip from one:
~~
1803 has a new feature that can help alleviate the problem. To fix a
blurry app head to Settings System Display Advanced scaling
settings and flip the 3Let Windows try to fix apps so they1re not
blurry2 switch to On.
~~


that is hilarious.


... while yours is unhelpful.


i didn't suggest anything, therefore it could not have been unhelpful.
  #15  
Old June 24th 18, 08:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On 23/06/2018 23:17, Eric Stevens wrote:
[]
The problems seem only to occur with LR CCC. Both monitors are
definitely running in their native resolution.


Let's hope the software supplier can fix the issue.

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #16  
Old June 24th 18, 09:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 08:46:33 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 23/06/2018 23:17, Eric Stevens wrote:
[]
The problems seem only to occur with LR CCC. Both monitors are
definitely running in their native resolution.


Let's hope the software supplier can fix the issue.


Aah - but which one? Microsoft, Adobe or, possibly, Nvidia?
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #17  
Old June 24th 18, 09:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:32:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jun 23, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:27:03 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

--- snip ---

I have just found that 'Print Screen' has changed fromCtrl-PrtScreen to
Prt Screen. Here is the result of both screens being
printed as one
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7wwgk2djh...oblem.jpg?dl=0

OK! That pretty much confirns that a problem exists.

I guess you have to go through a bunch of diagnostic checks to see if this
is an LR CCC, or Win10 only issue, or a conflict between the two. Then there is
the hardware to be considered, an issue with the right side display, or
cables, or a possible issue with your graphics card.


It seems to be a problem confined to LR. What I have found out since
is that it seems to be a problem unpacking the apparently compressed
image sent to the second screen. Some times if I wait the sharpness
will suddenly jump to the next stage or even run to completion.
Sometimes this will be triggered by an action in LR.

Did you update both LR CCC and Win10 at the same time, or has the Win10
update been in use for other stuff before dealing with LR CCC?


Win10 first, several weeks ago. LR yesterday. Win10 seems to be acting
much the same as ever (except for the changes).

Do you use the dual screen for other stuff, and if so, does this problem
manifest itself in anyway?


Apart from image processing, the main time that I am using both
screens together I have Fire Fox on the left hand screen and Agent
(news reader and email) on the right hand screen. Often something
which comes in through Agent triggers a URL which needs Fire Fox. All
that seems to be working OK.

Can you flip the left and right screens to check if the problem will move to
the left?


I used to be able to do that. I haven't yet found where it has gone to
in W10. I will try it when I find it.

Later: I found it but as soon as I start it up the fuzzy LR display
dissapears. I'm back to a single display.


Just to confirm; with the displays switched left to right, the dual display
is no longer available to you?


I see what you mean. I will have to try it later.

My conclusions so far a

1. It's not a hardware problem.

2. It is confined to LR CCC and seems to be in the software.


So there is probably an LR CCC/Win10 conflict related to the dual display
usage.

I may have to resort to Adobe. :-(


Good luck :-(

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #18  
Old June 24th 18, 09:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:48:26 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Anyway, I did a search on 1803 blurry and found a bunch of stuff.
Here's a clip from one:
~~
1803 has a new feature that can help alleviate the problem. To fix a
blurry app head to Settings System Display Advanced scaling
settings and flip the 3Let Windows try to fix apps so they1re not
blurry2 switch to On.
~~

that is hilarious.


... while yours is unhelpful.


i didn't suggest anything, therefore it could not have been unhelpful.


It certainly is not helpful. Therefore it is unhelpful.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #19  
Old June 24th 18, 10:47 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

On 24/06/2018 09:13, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 08:46:33 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 23/06/2018 23:17, Eric Stevens wrote:
[]
The problems seem only to occur with LR CCC. Both monitors are
definitely running in their native resolution.


Let's hope the software supplier can fix the issue.


Aah - but which one? Microsoft, Adobe or, possibly, Nvidia?


Well, if it's not a Windows problem (i.e. other programs work correctly)
perhaps that rules out Microsoft, and perhaps NVidia. I trust you have
reported the fault - after all, you are paying for the software I guess?

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #20  
Old June 24th 18, 11:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Two monitors with LR update - Problem

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Anyway, I did a search on 1803 blurry and found a bunch of stuff.
Here's a clip from one:
~~
1803 has a new feature that can help alleviate the problem. To fix a
blurry app head to Settings System Display Advanced scaling
settings and flip the 3Let Windows try to fix apps so they1re not
blurry2 switch to On.
~~

that is hilarious.

... while yours is unhelpful.


i didn't suggest anything, therefore it could not have been unhelpful.


It certainly is not helpful. Therefore it is unhelpful.


you're confused, as usual.

i was merely commenting that there is a user selectable toggle to 'fix
blurriness', something which is absolutely hilarious.

someone *else* mentioned it, and its existence screams "we have no idea
how to do graphics properly".

as for what's causing your specific problem, i don't use the exact same
hardware as you nor do i use lightroom on windows, therefore i have no
suggestions what to do to remedy it, other than buy a mac because this
would never happen on a mac, however, that would not be helpful, so i
didn't.
 




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