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Old January 14th 05, 04:59 AM
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Howdy!

I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.

I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer had a
hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is the advantage
of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital SLR, assuming the
lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?

With film, the format size is a significant factor between MF and 35mm. With
digital, is it a question of electronics? If the electronics (sensors,
chips, etc.) AND the lenses are comparable, is there any advantage of MF
(w/digital back) over a digital SLR (35mm)?

While I've been shooting film (35mm & lately MF) for over 20 years, I have
been studying the digital scene for the last couple of years. I've decided
it's only a question of when before I make the leap into digital as well.

Thanks for all replies!

Norm


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Old January 14th 05, 10:30 AM
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In article glIFd.81164$nN6.76125@edtnps84, ColdCanuck wrote:
Howdy!

I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.

I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer had a
hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is the advantage
of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital SLR, assuming the
lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


Same as with film - the capture area is bigger. This results in a better
quality of image, even for the same pixel count. Compare the output from the
EOS D20 to the 8 megapixel zoom compacts, for a graphic demonstration of
this advantage.
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Old January 14th 05, 10:30 AM
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In article glIFd.81164$nN6.76125@edtnps84, ColdCanuck wrote:
Howdy!

I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.

I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer had a
hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is the advantage
of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital SLR, assuming the
lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


Same as with film - the capture area is bigger. This results in a better
quality of image, even for the same pixel count. Compare the output from the
EOS D20 to the 8 megapixel zoom compacts, for a graphic demonstration of
this advantage.
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Old January 14th 05, 11:31 AM
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ColdCanuck wrote:
Howdy!


I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.


I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer
had a hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is
the advantage of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital
SLR, assuming the lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


All other things being equal, large sensors perform better than small
ones. That is, a 22 megapixel medium-format sensor will perform
better than a 22 megapixel 35mm size sensor. [1] This is because the
sensor elements have a limited capacity for photoelectrons before they
saturate. The more photoelectrons that can be held by a sensor
elements, the greater the signal to noise ratio, the higher the image
quality.

Andrew.

[1] If a 22 megapixel 35mm size sensor existed, which it doesn't...
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Old January 14th 05, 11:31 AM
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ColdCanuck wrote:
Howdy!


I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.


I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer
had a hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is
the advantage of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital
SLR, assuming the lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


All other things being equal, large sensors perform better than small
ones. That is, a 22 megapixel medium-format sensor will perform
better than a 22 megapixel 35mm size sensor. [1] This is because the
sensor elements have a limited capacity for photoelectrons before they
saturate. The more photoelectrons that can be held by a sensor
elements, the greater the signal to noise ratio, the higher the image
quality.

Andrew.

[1] If a 22 megapixel 35mm size sensor existed, which it doesn't...
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Old January 14th 05, 03:15 PM
Cold Canuck
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"Chris Brown" wrote in message
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In article glIFd.81164$nN6.76125@edtnps84, ColdCanuck
wrote:
Howdy!

I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.

I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer had a
hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is the
advantage
of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital SLR, assuming the
lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


Same as with film - the capture area is bigger. This results in a better
quality of image, even for the same pixel count. Compare the output from
the
EOS D20 to the 8 megapixel zoom compacts, for a graphic demonstration of
this advantage.


Not having access to either, does anyone know of any links to such a
comparison?


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Old January 14th 05, 03:15 PM
Cold Canuck
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"Chris Brown" wrote in message
...
In article glIFd.81164$nN6.76125@edtnps84, ColdCanuck
wrote:
Howdy!

I'm hoping this isn't a too obvious question.

I watched a professional shoot the other day and the photographer had a
hassey with a H1 digital back.Which got me wondering - what is the
advantage
of a digital back on a MF camera compared to a digital SLR, assuming the
lenses are comparable (ie. zeiss vs zeiss)?


Same as with film - the capture area is bigger. This results in a better
quality of image, even for the same pixel count. Compare the output from
the
EOS D20 to the 8 megapixel zoom compacts, for a graphic demonstration of
this advantage.


Not having access to either, does anyone know of any links to such a
comparison?


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Old January 14th 05, 05:51 PM
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See the thread ... in this forum ... started by Bill Hilton

"Canon 1Ds MII vs medium format digital back"
Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:12 AM

And additionally, see the page he referenced at
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...1-vs-p25.shtml





"Cold Canuck" wrote in message
news:WlRFd.93434$dv1.79470@edtnps89...


Not having access to either, does anyone know of any links to such a
comparison?




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Old January 14th 05, 05:51 PM
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See the thread ... in this forum ... started by Bill Hilton

"Canon 1Ds MII vs medium format digital back"
Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:12 AM

And additionally, see the page he referenced at
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...1-vs-p25.shtml





"Cold Canuck" wrote in message
news:WlRFd.93434$dv1.79470@edtnps89...


Not having access to either, does anyone know of any links to such a
comparison?




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Old January 14th 05, 05:51 PM
RSD99
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See the thread ... in this forum ... started by Bill Hilton

"Canon 1Ds MII vs medium format digital back"
Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:12 AM

And additionally, see the page he referenced at
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...1-vs-p25.shtml





"Cold Canuck" wrote in message
news:WlRFd.93434$dv1.79470@edtnps89...


Not having access to either, does anyone know of any links to such a
comparison?




 




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