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Inkjet prints lifetime in photo album
I am considering purchasing either the Epson R800 or the Canon i9900
printer. I'm planning on mounting prints I make in a photo album. I understand the Canon prints have a lifetime of something like 30 years under glass in display conditions. What does this translate to if the photos are mounted in a photo album? It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. Thanks in advance, |
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"alacriti" posted:
"... It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. ...." If so .. the Epson R800 uses the Ultrachrome pigmented inks. These are the closest thing to archival that anyone has come up with ... to date, anyway. Print life ratings seem to be well into the three-digit range. You can find out more at Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ An article and ratings on the R800 are at http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epso...2004_12_03.pdf Oh ... and FWIW: the tests I have seen for the Canon do not appear to be anywhere near as long. wrote in message oups.com... I am considering purchasing either the Epson R800 or the Canon i9900 printer. I'm planning on mounting prints I make in a photo album. I understand the Canon prints have a lifetime of something like 30 years under glass in display conditions. What does this translate to if the photos are mounted in a photo album? It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. Thanks in advance, |
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"alacriti" posted:
"... It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. ...." If so .. the Epson R800 uses the Ultrachrome pigmented inks. These are the closest thing to archival that anyone has come up with ... to date, anyway. Print life ratings seem to be well into the three-digit range. You can find out more at Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ An article and ratings on the R800 are at http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epso...2004_12_03.pdf Oh ... and FWIW: the tests I have seen for the Canon do not appear to be anywhere near as long. wrote in message oups.com... I am considering purchasing either the Epson R800 or the Canon i9900 printer. I'm planning on mounting prints I make in a photo album. I understand the Canon prints have a lifetime of something like 30 years under glass in display conditions. What does this translate to if the photos are mounted in a photo album? It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. Thanks in advance, |
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RSD99 wrote:
"alacriti" posted: "... It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. ..." If so .. the Epson R800 uses the Ultrachrome pigmented inks. These are the closest thing to archival that anyone has come up with ... to date, anyway. Print life ratings seem to be well into the three-digit range. You can find out more at Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ An article and ratings on the R800 are at http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epso...2004_12_03.pdf Oh ... and FWIW: the tests I have seen for the Canon do not appear to be anywhere near as long. I don't have access to WWW right now, so can you tell me if those links mention print longevity in an album (which is what the OP was asking basically)? -- -- Ben Thomas - Software Engineer - Melbourne, Australia My Digital World: Kodak DX6490, Canon i9950, Pioneer A05; Hitachi 37" HD plasma display, DGTEC 2000A, Denon 2800, H/K AVR4500, Whatmough Encore; Sony Ericsson K700i, Palm Tungsten T. Disclaimer: Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my employer shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I am considering purchasing either the Epson R800 or the Canon i9900 printer. I'm planning on mounting prints I make in a photo album. I understand the Canon prints have a lifetime of something like 30 years under glass in display conditions. What does this translate to if the photos are mounted in a photo album? It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. Thanks in advance, The Epson's Ultra Chrome inks are pigment-based, and will outlast ANY dye-based system currently available for desktop printing. |
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Ben Thomas writes:
RSD99 wrote: "alacriti" posted: "... It would be nice to make something that would be around for the grandkids. ..." If so .. the Epson R800 uses the Ultrachrome pigmented inks. These are the closest thing to archival that anyone has come up with ... to date, anyway. Print life ratings seem to be well into the three-digit range. You can find out more at Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ An article and ratings on the R800 are at http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epso...2004_12_03.pdf Oh ... and FWIW: the tests I have seen for the Canon do not appear to be anywhere near as long. I don't have access to WWW right now, so can you tell me if those links mention print longevity in an album (which is what the OP was asking basically)? Yes; one of the categories they give a rating for is "Album/dark storage". For those conditions, *all* of the papers they tested the Epson R800 with rate over 100 years, and most rate over 200 years. Since you say "right now", perhaps http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html will be useful to you later, or to other people. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:12:09 -0800, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even
number wrote: The Epson's Ultra Chrome inks are pigment-based, and will outlast ANY dye-based system currently available for desktop printing. Not necessarily. The HP DesignJet 30 and 130 (and a few other HP models) get an 82 year Wilhelm rating on selected HP media. Not disputing your *general* point that pigment inks will yield better longevity than dyes. But the HP ink/paper system is a specific exception. rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
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"rafe bustin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:12:09 -0800, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: The Epson's Ultra Chrome inks are pigment-based, and will outlast ANY dye-based system currently available for desktop printing. Not necessarily. The HP DesignJet 30 and 130 (and a few other HP models) get an 82 year Wilhelm rating on selected HP media. Not disputing your *general* point that pigment inks will yield better longevity than dyes. But the HP ink/paper system is a specific exception. My personal experience is that Willhelm has been very very wrong in the past...specifically with regard to Epson's 1270/870 printers and ink. They had horrible shift problems (and I'm an Epson guy!)...even after fabulous claims of longevity from Willhelm. I do understand that he is widely regarded as the longevity guru...but I would be very cautious when considering ANY ink-based system that is not behind glass, or where future handling cannot necessarily be predicted (which definitely includes albums). |
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