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Adobe must be hurting for money
I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing
perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. |
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Adobe must be hurting for money
"Rich" wrote in message ... I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. http://performance.morningstar.com/s...ion=USA&t=ADBE They seem to be managing the ugly dip around 2008. I fell behind with Photoshop updates and was sad to see that it would cost me a LOT to catch up. As an individual who uses Photoshop only occasionally to actually earn money, I have to be careful as to how much I spend on updates. Adobe has missed out on some revenue from folks like me. The software is great but their consumer base is multi-tiered. I would never go for Creative Suite, as it is more than I could ever use. Yeah, I know, use "Essentials" but that is not an answer for a serious amateur photograher who also, once in a while, does something at the professional level. I probably will never buy into cloud software for something like Photoshop. For other apps, maybe. |
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On 11/16/2011 6:15 PM, Charles wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message ... I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. http://performance.morningstar.com/s...ion=USA&t=ADBE They seem to be managing the ugly dip around 2008. I fell behind with Photoshop updates and was sad to see that it would cost me a LOT to catch up. As an individual who uses Photoshop only occasionally to actually earn money, I have to be careful as to how much I spend on updates. Adobe has missed out on some revenue from folks like me. The software is great but their consumer base is multi-tiered. I would never go for Creative Suite, as it is more than I could ever use. Yeah, I know, use "Essentials" but that is not an answer for a serious amateur photograher who also, once in a while, does something at the professional level. I probably will never buy into cloud software for something like Photoshop. For other apps, maybe. I don't see the relationship of the title to the facts presented. -- Peter |
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On 16/11/2011, Rich wrote:
I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. I wish they'd put Bridge out as a separate product. -- N |
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On 2011-11-17 00:09:45 -0800, N said:
On 16/11/2011, Rich wrote: I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. I wish they'd put Bridge out as a separate product. They do. It is actually "Super Bridge" and it is called Lightroom. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2011-11-17 09:16 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2011-11-17 00:09:45 -0800, N said: On 16/11/2011, Rich wrote: I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. I wish they'd put Bridge out as a separate product. They do. It is actually "Super Bridge" and it is called Lightroom. Don't agree. One can do their entire editing flow within Lightroom without a separate photo editor. It does 99% of what photographers need to edit and present or print a photo as a photo. Bridge needs a photo editor (any photo editor will do). I agree that Bridge would be a fine standalone product using other editors such as Elements (which has its own "minor Bridge"), The Gimp, and so on. -- gmail originated posts filtered due to spam. |
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On 11/17/2011 9:16 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2011-11-17 00:09:45 -0800, N said: On 16/11/2011, Rich wrote: I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. I wish they'd put Bridge out as a separate product. They do. It is actually "Super Bridge" and it is called Lightroom. LIghtroom is Bridge on steroids. There is little you can do in Lightroom that you can't do in Bridge and ACR, except possibly soft proofing. -- Peter |
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On 11/17/2011 10:34 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2011-11-17 09:16 , Savageduck wrote: On 2011-11-17 00:09:45 -0800, N said: On 16/11/2011, Rich wrote: I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. I wish they'd put Bridge out as a separate product. They do. It is actually "Super Bridge" and it is called Lightroom. Don't agree. One can do their entire editing flow within Lightroom without a separate photo editor. It does 99% of what photographers need to edit and present or print a photo as a photo. Bridge needs a photo editor (any photo editor will do). I agree that Bridge would be a fine standalone product using other editors such as Elements (which has its own "minor Bridge"), The Gimp, and so on. See above. You can do a lot of editing in ACR, it just is a tad more kludgy. -- Peter |
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On 11/17/2011 8:32 AM, RichA wrote:
On Nov 17, 1:01 am, wrote: On 11/16/2011 6:15 PM, Charles wrote: "Rich" wrote in message ... I think this cloud thing is scaring a lot of software companies, believing perhaps that (rightly) people wouldn't pay anywhere near as much for being in a "cloud" as having physical software on their system. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ive-cloud-and- adobe-creative-suite-new-choices-for-customers.html?PID=2159997 For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses. With regards to upgrades, we are changing our policy for perpetual license customers. In order to qualify for upgrade pricing when CS6 releases, customers will need to be on the latest version of our software (either CS5 or CS5.5 editions). If our customers are not yet on those versions, we’re offering a 20% discount through December 31, 2011 which will qualify them for upgrade pricing when we release CS6. http://performance.morningstar.com/s...turn.action?re... They seem to be managing the ugly dip around 2008. I fell behind with Photoshop updates and was sad to see that it would cost me a LOT to catch up. As an individual who uses Photoshop only occasionally to actually earn money, I have to be careful as to how much I spend on updates. Adobe has missed out on some revenue from folks like me. The software is great but their consumer base is multi-tiered. I would never go for Creative Suite, as it is more than I could ever use. Yeah, I know, use "Essentials" but that is not an answer for a serious amateur photograher who also, once in a while, does something at the professional level. I probably will never buy into cloud software for something like Photoshop. For other apps, maybe. I don't see the relationship of the title to the facts presented. -- Peter Maybe you could jump from other versions to CS 6 on their previous pricing scheme by just paying an upgrade fee? Now, you need to be on CS 5 to do that. Otherwise, you'll pay the full price for CS 6 if you move from a version below CS 5. That's what it looks like. I read very well. Exactly how do that lead you to the conclusion that Adobe is hurting for money? -- Peter |
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On 11/17/2011 8:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
wrote: Maybe you could jump from other versions to CS 6 on their previous pricing scheme by just paying an upgrade fee? Now, you need to be on CS 5 to do that. Otherwise, you'll pay the full price for CS 6 if you move from a version below CS 5. That's what it looks like. Yes, that's exactly what it looks like. You used to be able to buy the same upgrade from two or three versions earlier, but now it will only be from the immediately previous version. A first time user could buy the current version more cheaply by buying an earlier version at a discounted price then buying the upgrade. Excellent choice of subject line. ;-) I would have bet YOU would say that. When a company is hurting for money, they don't make it financially more difficult to upgrade. They seek wider distribution at lower prices. -- Peter |
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