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While a Fuji 617 was my first MF camera I couldn't recommend
it for someone new to photography. It does one thing well but not much else. Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give the same results but allow for more flexibility: format, lenses, movements. Wouldnt I waste film then? Is it cheaper the 120film way? Why 6x17 or large format ? Planning wall size murals ? No, just 60x170cm, 60" width later. city , nihgt prolonged exposures with cars passing in front of monuments and buildings, geometric erotic, people in large group shots (schools, football, army,...) , etc. |
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..::SuperBLUE::. wrote:
While a Fuji 617 was my first MF camera I couldn't recommend it for someone new to photography. It does one thing well but not much else. Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give the same results but allow for more flexibility: format, lenses, movements. Wouldnt I waste film then? Is it cheaper the 120film way? Not cheaper for film but cheaper for the camera. Will you be shooting enough so the cheaper 120 film will make up for the cost of the back etc? Why 6x17 or large format ? Planning wall size murals ? No, just 60x170cm, 60" width later. city , nihgt prolonged exposures with cars passing in front of monuments and buildings, geometric erotic, people in large group shots (schools, football, army,...) , etc. Just 2feet by almost 6 feet? Nick |
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Roger I. McMillan wrote:
Planning wall size murals ? It doesn't take wall-size mural to spot the difference. I have 35 mm and MF swing lens panorama cameras and the difference is just as striking as between 35 mm and MF in general. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses |
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In article ,
"Roger I. McMillan" wrote: Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give the same results but allow for more flexibility Like hand holding? Shooting on the go at Moab or Death Valley? Carrying just a few rolls of film and a meter rather then film holders, changing bag, etc.? -- To reply no_ HPMarketing Corp. |
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At the risk of inviting the wrath of the LF purists, I was going to suggest
spending a few bucks and getting a Russian Horizon 202 panoramic on e-bay. I have one and it's fun. I modified a negative carrier for my 35mm - 2 1/4 square enlarger to accomodate the size - its a 24 x 54 mm negative. Do all my developing and enlarging in B&W at home. However, if you want night exposures, forget it. The Horizon uses a swinging lens, so no time exposures longer than 1/2 second, and no flash. Otherwise, it takes a surprisingly good negative, and its fun to work within the limitations. ".::SuperBLUE::." wrote in message ... While a Fuji 617 was my first MF camera I couldn't recommend it for someone new to photography. It does one thing well but not much else. Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give the same results but allow for more flexibility: format, lenses, movements. Wouldnt I waste film then? Is it cheaper the 120film way? Why 6x17 or large format ? Planning wall size murals ? No, just 60x170cm, 60" width later. city , nihgt prolonged exposures with cars passing in front of monuments and buildings, geometric erotic, people in large group shots (schools, football, army,...) , etc. |
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Pieter Litchfield wrote: At the risk of inviting the wrath of the LF purists, I was going to suggest spending a few bucks and getting a Russian Horizon 202 panoramic on e-bay. I have one and it's fun. I modified a negative carrier for my 35mm - 2 1/4 square enlarger to accomodate the size - its a 24 x 54 mm negative. Do all my developing and enlarging in B&W at home. However, if you want night exposures, forget it. The Horizon uses a swinging lens, so no time exposures longer than 1/2 second, and no flash. Otherwise, it takes a surprisingly good negative, and its fun to work within the limitations. And it gives amazingly sharp pictures of things out towards infinity. Quite stunning, in fact. |
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message
ink.net... "Paul Owen via PhotoKB.com" wrote Shorter than 90mm and the front and rear standards of most [field] cameras will not allow focus as they are too close together. A monorail, such a Sinar, will go down to 45mm. There are special double-bag bellows for use below 65mm. I assume the Shen Hao back that produces 6x17 on a 4x5 camera works the same way as the Da Yi one I've just been playing with does (indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if they came from the same factory) I can't see how else it can work. If that is so, the fact that the camera can take shorter lenses doesn't mean that you can necessarily still focus them on the 6x17 back, which I think is what Paul is getting at. I just posted a preliminary review of the Da Yi which explains the issue, so rather than repeat here what I've just written in that, I'll refer anyone who wants an explanation to that post. Peter |
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If the OP would like, I can post pictures of a handmade 4x5 that uses a 47mm
F5.6 Super-Angulon. It covers 56x120, ideal for a rollfilm back. |
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"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
... In rec.photo.equipment.large-format jjs wrote: You should be sure you want 6x17. 17cm requires 7" or better enlarging equipment. It could get complicated or expensive quickly. On the other hand, 12cm is common, and wide lenses that cover it are easily found. The wide angle part might not end up being true. A 75mm Nikon should cover 6x17. To get something similar on 6x12 you'd need something around 58mm. Maybe - but the widest lens I have that will cover 6x12 gives me a wider horizontal AoV than the widest I have that will cover 6x17. That's partly a reflection of the lenses I happen to have, but even if I did have a 75mm that would cover 6x17, it still wouldn't give as wide an AoV as my 38mm does on 6x12: I don't think it's possible to get as wide an AoV as that on 6x17. But then, I make the 38mm pn 6x12 to be the horizontal equivalent of a 12mm on 135 film, so it's not the sort of perspective one needs very often! (The 75mm you suggest is the equivalent of a 16mm on 135, so it's already fairly extreme.) OTOH a 6x12 back can be had for relatively little. With the emphasis on the word 'relatively', compared to other sized film-backs! Peter |
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In message , Pieter
Litchfield writes At the risk of inviting the wrath of the LF purists, I was going to suggest spending a few bucks and getting a Russian Horizon 202 panoramic on e-bay. There's a rather huge 120-film version of the thing, too. -- ---------------------------- Paul Friday |
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