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Old January 5th 06, 07:05 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Cheesehead wrote:
Democracies and Republics come in many variants.


"Democracy (Greek demos,”the people”; kratein, “to rule”), political
system in which the people of a country rule through any form of
government they choose to establish."

The term "through" implies direct representation. In the past I have
attempted to contact numerous "representatives" regarding political
issues and have always been stonewalled, railroaded or even just simply
ignored. And that goes down both sides of the aisle as I certainly don't
follow a party line.

JD
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Old January 5th 06, 07:09 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Frank Pittel wrote:

Before this thread goes to far off into lala land keep in mind that the US
is not now and never has been a democracy.


That's my point. I'd like to live in a true democracy.

Government type : Definition Field Listing
Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html

JD
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Old January 5th 06, 07:27 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Tom Phillips wrote:

The media should play it up. Dubya is far worse
than we imagine...


As was his father.

"Read my lips: NO NEW TAXES!"

The debt as of 12:22AM CST

$ 8,205,979.589,520.61

Yes, that's eigh trillion, two hundered five billion, nine hundred
seventy nine million, five hundred eighty nine thousand, five hundred
twenty dollars and sixty one cents,

Your share of the debt as an American citizen :

$ 27,521.65

Will that be cash check or the future of your country ?


JD
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Old January 5th 06, 07:33 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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G- Blank wrote:


You mean to tell me the neocons aren't democratic...?


As you know I am not a ardent supporter of the current
adm, but the media has really played this up. If anyone believes
the government has not done this kind of stuff prior they are nuts.


I would say "willfully ignorant". But I must say that I don't think the
Democrats are as guilty of these abuses as the Republicans.

JD

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Old January 5th 06, 07:34 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Tom Phillips wrote:

You mean we aren't creating a real democracy in Iraq?
While here at home a secret NSC government empowered
by dubya's imperial presidency is spying on Americans
without consent and suspending habeas corpus?

You mean to tell me the neocons aren't democratic...?


No more than the people that voted him/them in are intelligent.

JD
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Old January 5th 06, 07:37 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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G- Blank wrote:
In article ,
John wrote:

David Nebenzahl wrote:

The best lens ever made can't make an out-of-focus image sharp. A good
chassis with good alignment should be the basis for any enlarging. I'll
take a well-aligned Durst with a triplet over a poorly aligned Beseler
with an APO lens every day of the week.
Yes, but the Beseler can easily be aligned, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Actually most Beselers can't be adjusted. Well, not unless you want to
cut the frame.

JS


Define adjusted. The MXT can.


Try adjusting a 23CII and you will learn the true meaning of frustration.

JD
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Old January 5th 06, 08:18 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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John wrote:

Tom Phillips wrote:

You mean we aren't creating a real democracy in Iraq?
While here at home a secret NSC government empowered
by dubya's imperial presidency is spying on Americans
without consent and suspending habeas corpus?

You mean to tell me the neocons aren't democratic...?


No more than the people that voted him/them in are intelligent.


People vote party affiliation, perhaps the quintessential
definition of stupidity...
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Old January 5th 06, 08:20 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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John wrote:

G- Blank wrote:


You mean to tell me the neocons aren't democratic...?


As you know I am not a ardent supporter of the current
adm, but the media has really played this up. If anyone believes
the government has not done this kind of stuff prior they are nuts.


I would say "willfully ignorant". But I must say that I don't think the
Democrats are as guilty of these abuses as the Republicans.



The current spying is unprecedented in it's unbridled
nature, however, due to the Patriot Act. The republican
party IMO is dead, since it no longer represents or
offers candidates who abhor big government or government
abuses. Rather than conservative, it a party of special
interests...
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Old January 5th 06, 02:23 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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"Fascist"
Don't try to sound intelligent, now.

Not religion.
Just the inherent religious bigotry of the Left.
Collin

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Old January 5th 06, 02:25 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
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Of course. So let's not be politically myopic.
Like the NY Times has a reputation for truthfulness.
Sheesh.

Collin

 




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