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Artic photography - any suggestions?
Help! I'm heading to the Artic (Hudson Bay) next month and hope to take some
photos of polar bears and other wildlife. Any suggestions on how to get the best white on white shot? Film suggestions? I'm using a Nikon N6006, with zoom up to 200x |
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Artic photography - any suggestions?
"SANDEES MOM" u27080@uwe wrote:
Help! I'm heading to the Artic (Hudson Bay) next month and hope to take some photos of polar bears and other wildlife. Any suggestions on how to get the best white on white shot? Film suggestions? I'm using a Nikon N6006, with zoom up to 200x What is a "zoom up to 200x"??? Maybe you mean you have a zoom that has a maximum focal length of 200mm??? I've never been to Hudson Bay, so I can't be specific about what to do in that particular location. I'm not even sure exactly what the weather there is like (though I can give that a pretty good guess). Word to the wise with polar bears... do *not* get close to one. They look nice and cuddly, and people often get the idea they can walk right up next to them and start taking pictures. The damned things might just decide to *eat* you! If you can run 1/2 a mile in 0.01 seconds, you're safe. Otherwise you turn into bear ****. You have two basic problems when using cameras in the Arctic. One is cold weather. The other is a need for long lenses. You will not likely experience anything next month in the way of extremely cold weather. But even at 0C there are some problems you need to be aware of. Humidity is the big one. If you are outside and it is anything from near 0C on down, any equipment you have out in the cold air (cameras, lenses, and you eye glasses are all examples that you will commonly experience problems with) will eventually cool down to the ambient outside air temperature. That causes problems. First, if it is cold enough the batteries will stop working. Different batteries can survive at different temperatures. Second, if it is cold enough all lubrication will freeze, and become glue. For items one and two, which you won't likely suffer in October anyway, one way to handle it is to keep the camera inside your coat when not actually shooting pictures. If you can keep it warm enough, it won't be a problem. But at -40C you just don't have an ordinary camera out and shooting continuously for very long... Third, if you breath on anything, it will get fogged up and that will turn to ice. You can't get rid of it without warming it up. Your glasses may suffer that (at -40C if you try to pull a parka hood over your head to keep your nose warm, bingo you can't see). But also the viewfinder on the camera may suffer too! In particular on Nikon digital cameras the LCD screen gets fogged. None of the above is particularly dangerous, and is unlikely to cause any permanent damage. Forth... is a more potentially damaging problem: if you take a cold camera and lens into a warm building, the warm air that comes into contact with the camera contains moisture, which will "fog" the camera and lense when it is cooled by the cold mass of the camera. Warm air can hold more moisture than cold air, so cooling the air around the camera causes condensation, which lands on the camera. You can literally, at 0C outside air temperature, walk into a warm humid house (say someone is washing a load of clothes) and have water dripping off the camera in beads! The solution is to *always* have plastic sacks and baggies in your camera bag. Keep everything small in a zip lock baggie, and when you go inside wrap the camera in a "kitchen" sized garbage bag. It doesn't really need to be sealed tight, but it needs be tight enough to prevent any major exchange of humid air with the air inside the bag. Just leave everything inside plastic bags until it has warmed up to room temperature. Note that air is a good insulator, so you want as little air in the bag as possible in order to speed up the warming process. And if you forget? As soon as you realize it, take the camera outside, and bag it. (You want cold dry outside air in the bag, not warm inside air.) As soon as it warms up, put the camera in the driest place you can find, with the most air movement you can find. I have discovered that, at least with Nikon DSLRs, you definitely want to always have a set of plastic tweezers for removing the focusing screen! I fogged a D2x fairly good one day, and it would no longer focus correctly. It turned out that autofocus did work, but the optical focus was off. It did not clear up when the camera had been drying for a couple days... and I was getting very nervous about the idea of paying Nikon $375, their minimum fee to look at it. I took the focusing screen out, noted that it very tightly fits against another piece of glass just above it (which would keep the moisture in place and distort the focus as seen through the viewfinder). It took a minute or so for it to sink in that looking at if for a minute so was indeed all it would take to "fix" it! And indeed, it was fine when put back together. Any given bit of equipment may have its own odd problems with condensation. But beyond that, buy, borrow, or steal the longest lens you can find. Most of the Arctic (I don't know about the area you are going to though) is flat tundra, but even when it isn't there is no forest cover. Either way, you can't hide well, and can be seen from a long way off. Hence to get pictures of many animals you need a *long* lense. 400mm is about the shortest for many things. I was out taking pictures of snowy owls yesterday, and used an 800mm f/5.6 lens. I actually had a 2x telextender on it for most shots, though some were just the bare lense... and a few were taken with both a 1.6x and a 2x telextender! And of course that is using a DSLR with a 1.5 crop factor, so for your 35mm the equivalent would be a 1200mm lense, and the focal length with both telextenders would be the equivalent of 3840mm! (After shooting more than 300 shots, one owl got curious, and flew over and perched on a sign post directly across the road from me, perhaps 40 feet away. It was just barely _closer_ than the 800mm lense can focus! I had to switch to an 80-200mm zoom, using the 2x extender, which makes it roughly a 600mm lense for your camera, to get full frame shots at that distance.) -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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Artic photography - any suggestions?
My wife and I have been to Churchill twice. First in mid October with Canon
film cameras. Second in mid November with Canon digital. October had some snow, but not full white. Exposed 400 speed negative film one f-stop greater than metered. Lots of time the light level was low due to thick clouds and falling snow. Shooting from tundra buggies requires hand-holding and fast shutter most of the time because they move a lot when people inside move. The springs are very soft. One person did use a tripod some with long exposures, but did not get many good pictures. Most pictures from inside the buggy through an open window. A 28-200mm zoom provided many good shots. A longer zoom would have been useful at times. The 28mm setting was also used a lot. For near bears, 28mm provided body shots; 200mm provided head shots. Some shots were just a few feet from the buggy. http://lewbar.tripod.com/bears/bears.html has several of the pictures we made that trip. Temperature was 28 to 35 f most of the time. The November trip had ice and snow in abundance. Morning temperature was well below zero f, with significant wind. High temperature was about 10 f. Thank goodness the buggies are heated. Only problem with picture taking from the buggy porch was loss of shutter feel with cold finger after just a few minutes. Cameras had no problem with the cold for the few minutes I could stand to be out except for breath condensing on viewfinder. The 28-200mm lens was again used for most shots with a digital rebel; a 1.6 cropping factor made it act longer. An 18-55mm was used at times. A 75-300 IS was used on a 10D for distant shots. Again, the 1.6 cropping factor made it act longer. A ISO speed of 400 or 800 was used, with one or 1.33 f-stop overexposure because of the white background. The histogram display of the digital camera indicated the shots were adequately exposed. With slide film, much more care in exposure might be needed. Polar bears are not white, they are beige. Metering on a bear is less light than from the snow. Negative film is tolerant of over exposure. Slide film and digital are not. With digital, under exposure can be corrected with processing, but not over exposure. Most tourists on both these trips just had point and shoot cameras. They got several good bear shots when the bears would approach the buggy. I also got good shots of arctic fox and birds, and many more bear shots with the longer lenses. Battery power might be a problem for you if it is really cold. All the cameras I used had lithium batteries that maintain their power when cold. Alkaline batteries do not. I have not had to carry film through an airport for several years. The November trip was in 2004 when I was all digital. You will probably shoot several rolls each day. "SANDEES MOM" u27080@uwe wrote in message news:66ccd19f126b1@uwe... Help! I'm heading to the Artic (Hudson Bay) next month and hope to take some photos of polar bears and other wildlife. Any suggestions on how to get the best white on white shot? Film suggestions? I'm using a Nikon N6006, with zoom up to 200x |
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Artic photography - any suggestions?
Lew wrote:
My wife and I have been to Churchill twice. First in mid October with Canon film cameras. Second in mid November with Canon digital. October had some snow, but not full white. Exposed 400 speed negative film one f-stop greater than metered. Lots of time the light level was low due to thick clouds and falling snow. Shooting from tundra buggies requires hand-holding and fast shutter most of the time because they move a lot when people inside move. The springs are very soft. One person did use a tripod some with long exposures, but did not get many good pictures. Most pictures from inside the buggy through an open window. A 28-200mm zoom provided many good shots. A longer zoom would have been useful at times. The 28mm setting was also used a lot. For near bears, 28mm provided body shots; 200mm provided head shots. Some shots were just a few feet from the buggy. http://lewbar.tripod.com/bears/bears.html has several of the pictures we made that trip. Temperature was 28 to 35 f most of the time. The November trip had ice and snow in abundance. Morning temperature was well below zero f, with significant wind. High temperature was about 10 f. Thank goodness the buggies are heated. Only problem with picture taking from the buggy porch was loss of shutter feel with cold finger after just a few minutes. Cameras had no problem with the cold for the few minutes I could stand to be out except for breath condensing on viewfinder. The 28-200mm lens was again used for most shots with a digital rebel; a 1.6 cropping factor made it act longer. An 18-55mm was used at times. A 75-300 IS was used on a 10D for distant shots. Again, the 1.6 cropping factor made it act longer. A ISO speed of 400 or 800 was used, with one or 1.33 f-stop overexposure because of the white background. The histogram display of the digital camera indicated the shots were adequately exposed. With slide film, much more care in exposure might be needed. Polar bears are not white, they are beige. Metering on a bear is less light than from the snow. Negative film is tolerant of over exposure. Slide film and digital are not. With digital, under exposure can be corrected with processing, but not over exposure. Most tourists on both these trips just had point and shoot cameras. They got several good bear shots when the bears would approach the buggy. I also got good shots of arctic fox and birds, and many more bear shots with the longer lenses. Battery power might be a problem for you if it is really cold. All the cameras I used had lithium batteries that maintain their power when cold. Alkaline batteries do not. I have not had to carry film through an airport for several years. The November trip was in 2004 when I was all digital. You will probably shoot several rolls each day. "SANDEES MOM" u27080@uwe wrote in message news:66ccd19f126b1@uwe... Help! I'm heading to the Artic (Hudson Bay) next month and hope to take some photos of polar bears and other wildlife. Any suggestions on how to get the best white on white shot? Film suggestions? I'm using a Nikon N6006, with zoom up to 200x If you have manual controls, use either an incident light meter or a gray card for your meter readings. The all white snow and the brighter than normal bear are going to be brighter than the gray the light meter trys to make it. Using a gray card, an incident light meter (one that measures the light falling on the meter not one that has light reflected to it) or the sunny 16 rule would be best in my opinion. ( Sunny 16 rule = F16 and shutter speed equal to the film ASA. 100 speed film would have the shutter at the closest to 100 so it would be 1/125) |
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