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Nibbling on an Apple
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:51 -0400, nospam
wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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O/T: Nibbling on an Apple
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:41:18 -0500, Dudley Hanks
wrote: : Well, as much as I hate to admit it, I've taken a small step over : to the dark side: I've picked up an iPad Mini... : : Like most Apple devices I've worked with, it seems this one does : nothing extraordinarily well, but it is rather : versatile. : : ... : : All in all, I have to say that I'm pleased with the iPad Mini, : not for what I purchased it for, but, rather, for the way it has : proven to help me with every day tasks I've been struggling with : for several decades. : : Nice work, Apple. Rich A will have a contract out on you soon enough, for that heresy. Recant now or beware. Bob |
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Nibbling on an Apple
On 2013-08-06 18:13:21 -0700, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:49:57 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:51 -0400, nospam wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system? Exactly! However, some of us here are curious as to when it was you got yourself an iPad? -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Nibbling on an Apple
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. definitely not crap. it's progress and can't happen soon enough. file system access is primitive. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. then she's not taking advantage of all of its functionality. you don't need direct file system access to manage photos. far from it. the computer can do that *for* you. faces and places automatically groups photos by who is in them and where they were taken, or the photos can be put into one or more albums, something that can't be done with a filesystem. ios 7 also has another way to look at large numbers of photos and quickly figure out which ones are the ones you want to look at, but it's not out yet. |
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Nibbling on an Apple
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system? no. it's a higher level concept. it's actually a database indexed by content, not a rigid file/folder structure. one photo can be in multiple albums, something not possible with a file system. it's the same for music. you can search music by various things, such as artist, album, genre or title. you can also create playlists with whatever you want in them. as with photos, one song can be in multiple playlists (or no playlists). playlists can also be smart and automatically update themselves based on rules you define, such as least recently played, rated 4 * or higher or music from the '60s or some other ruleset. if you play a song, it's automatically removed from least recently played and if you downrate it to 3* or less, it will be removed from the 4* or better playlist, all automatically. |
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Nibbling on an Apple
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: Exactly! However, some of us here are curious as to when it was you got yourself an iPad? Month or so ago. I wanted a way to take photos with me to show some people. So far, I've never added a - whaddayacallit - an app? or used for anything else. Rather than let technology lead me by the nose, I add what I want when I want it. adding apps is hardly letting technology lead you. you get to choose which apps to install and what you do with them. you installed apps on your laptop and desktop computer, so why not on an ipad? |
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Nibbling on an Apple
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:13:21 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:49:57 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:51 -0400, nospam wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system? Exactly - but nospam doesn't seem to realise that. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Nibbling on an Apple
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:21:49 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system? no. it's a higher level concept. it's actually a database indexed by content, not a rigid file/folder structure. one photo can be in multiple albums, something not possible with a file system. You can't do any of these things without a file system. it's the same for music. you can search music by various things, such as artist, album, genre or title. you can also create playlists with whatever you want in them. as with photos, one song can be in multiple playlists (or no playlists). You can't do any of these things without a file system. playlists can also be smart and automatically update themselves based on rules you define, such as least recently played, rated 4 * or higher or music from the '60s or some other ruleset. if you play a song, it's automatically removed from least recently played and if you downrate it to 3* or less, it will be removed from the 4* or better playlist, all automatically. You can't do any of these things without a file system. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Nibbling on an Apple
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:21:46 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. definitely not crap. it's progress and can't happen soon enough. file system access is primitive. It's your original statement that is crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. then she's not taking advantage of all of its functionality. How can you possibly know that? you don't need direct file system access to manage photos. far from it. the computer can do that *for* you. Twisting. Shifting the goal posts. The question is not whether you have "direct file system access" but whether or not you have a "file system". faces and places automatically groups photos by who is in them and where they were taken, or the photos can be put into one or more albums, something that can't be done with a filesystem. Weasel! You are describing what it is that the file system doe. ios 7 also has another way to look at large numbers of photos and quickly figure out which ones are the ones you want to look at, but it's not out yet. ... and it will keep track of them with table of random numbers? Naah. It's got a file system. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Nibbling on an Apple
On 2013-08-06 19:41:54 -0700, Tony Cooper said:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:06:15 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-08-06 18:13:21 -0700, Tony Cooper said: On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:49:57 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:51 -0400, nospam wrote: file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at individual files, but typical users do not. Crap. You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of photographs unless there was a file system you could follow. Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big heap. Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system? Exactly! However, some of us here are curious as to when it was you got yourself an iPad? Month or so ago. I wanted a way to take photos with me to show some people. So far, I've never added a - whaddayacallit - an app? or used for anything else. Rather than let technology lead me by the nose, I add what I want when I want it. I did try to take a photograph with it earlier this evening. The grandsons had wrestling practice, so I tried to take a photo. I found it doesn't work too well with my finger over the lens. Finally got one image and went to the car and got my Fuji compact for the rest. Pop Warner football starts this week, so I'll be back to the Nikon. They got their practice kit. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ohhve1k3je...3-08-05-01.JPG You might want to add Dropbox to your iPad. Another useful app for your desktop and iPad is "Photo Transfer App". http://www.phototransferapp.com/ Also, as a photographer I suggest you take a look at "Eyewitness" from the Guardian. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-...363993651?mt=8 The Wikipedia App is worth having installed; https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wiki...324715238?mt=8 ....and if you want to see just how good streaming video can be on an iPad, check the Smithsonian Channel app https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smit...377458454?mt=8 I use a couple of birder's field guides (on iPhone & iPad) which saves lugging a paper edition around. Just a few things look at, if they don't interest you, then so be it. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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