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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:07:24 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: Poor little brand new Nikon 18-55mm VR. Brand new. Nice glass, sharp. Nice VR. TERRIBLE plastic lens mount. Camera took a spill, cheap plastic flange on bayonet snaps off like a spaghetti noodle. Forget the B.S. about strong re-inforced plastic. It is ALL garbage. From the description of the fall, NOTHING would have happened to a metal-mount lens except for a dinged filter or cracked PLASTIC hook. Instead, the lens breaks out of the camera mount!! This is the price of $140 kit lenses. The lens is now unusable. The repair bill from Nikon is 2x the lens cost. http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/117841934 I like it. People who are that much of fumbling idiots don't deserve to own any cameras. I took a spill down a terminal-moraine from a glacier one time, I had the wherewithal to keep the camera above the rocks and rubble the whole way down. I deserve to own a camera. You do not. |
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|AX| Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
Jerry wrote:
....some odd choices for followup uk.rec.ufo, uk.rec.sheds, uk.local.surrey |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
Good! wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:07:24 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: Poor little brand new Nikon 18-55mm VR. Brand new. Nice glass, sharp. Nice VR. TERRIBLE plastic lens mount. Camera took a spill, cheap plastic flange on bayonet snaps off like a spaghetti noodle. Forget the B.S. about strong re-inforced plastic. It is ALL garbage. From the description of the fall, NOTHING would have happened to a metal-mount lens except for a dinged filter or cracked PLASTIC hook. Instead, the lens breaks out of the camera mount!! This is the price of $140 kit lenses. The lens is now unusable. The repair bill from Nikon is 2x the lens cost. http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/117841934 Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Lens mounts are no place to do so. The reasoning is something like: "people who buy these lenses, usually with a low end camera, rarely remove them from the camera, so there will be no wear and tear on the part." As to RichA's never ending anti-plastic rant we can just confirm again that he looks for any statistically insignificant "evidence" to "prove" his point. In this case the camera took a spill (has never happened to me despite my basic clumsiness, rarely use lens strap, carrying my cameras over the shoulder on a tri/monopod, etc. The same "spill" could have landed on something hard and jutting and knocked out the front element while leaving the mount intact... |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
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Alan Browne wrote: Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Gee, one would think from some of the posts in this thread that they thought they were buying a hand to hand combat weapon from Nikon. Except perhaps for a steel ball, there is almost nothing on earth that cannot be broken by mis-handling. To blame Nikon because that lense mount failed is stupid. If people were reporting early failure because of normal use it would be different, but that is not happening. |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
Rich wrote:
On Oct 3, 6:22*pm, clw wrote: In article , *Alan Browne wrote: Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Gee, one would think from some of the posts in this thread that they thought they were buying a hand to hand combat weapon from Nikon. * Except perhaps for a steel ball, there is almost nothing on earth that cannot be broken by mis-handling. * True. But to expect to use a camera for say 2 years without dropping it once is probably naive and unrealistic. I've used my curent camera for three years and haven't dropped it. Nor did I drop the camera before it. A metal mount wouldn't have broken the way the plastic did. It would have broken some other way. -- Ray Fischer |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
Rich wrote:
Alan Browne As to RichA's never ending anti-plastic rant we can just confirm again that he looks for any statistically insignificant "evidence" to "prove" Every time I go into Henry's Outlet store in Toronto, I see dozens and dozens of lenses from the 1980s and 1970's, all with metal mounts, all in WORKING CONDITION. None with autofocus or electronic diaphrams or image stabilization and which cost more than today's lenses. You won't be able to say that in 2030 about the plastic CRAP we get today. The plastic crap which is fine for you but not for anybody else. -- Ray Fischer |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:23:05 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote: On Oct 3, 6:22*pm, clw wrote: In article , *Alan Browne wrote: Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Gee, one would think from some of the posts in this thread that they thought they were buying a hand to hand combat weapon from Nikon. * Except perhaps for a steel ball, there is almost nothing on earth that cannot be broken by mis-handling. * True. But to expect to use a camera for say 2 years without dropping it once is probably naive and unrealistic. I've used cameras for 50 years and I can't remember dropping one once. A metal mount wouldn't have broken the way the plastic did. Where the problem lies is in the bayonet. A camera body of plastic can be made thicker than metal, that way it will hold up. But a bayonet mount cannot be altered, it has been designed to specific dimensions, often decades ago when there was no such thing as a plastic mount so there was no reason to scale up the bayonet for strength. Therefore, the ears on the mount are the same thickness in crappy plastic as metal, and they don't hold up. Eric Stevens |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:23:05 -0700 (PDT), Rich wrote: On Oct 3, 6:22 pm, clw wrote: In article , Alan Browne wrote: Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Gee, one would think from some of the posts in this thread that they thought they were buying a hand to hand combat weapon from Nikon. Except perhaps for a steel ball, there is almost nothing on earth that cannot be broken by mis-handling. True. But to expect to use a camera for say 2 years without dropping it once is probably naive and unrealistic. I've used cameras for 50 years and I can't remember dropping one once. I've yet to drop a camera or lens. Maybe I shouldn't say that, the Gods of such things may take revenge. I did drop a brand new disk drive a few weeks ago. Left it on top of the computer that I was working on while I move some cables around. Then (forgetting it) tipped the computer on its side to help my reach (awkward location) ... slammed onto my desk (steel) and then onto the floor. Had a dent on a corner. Installed it and it works fine... |
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Plastic proves itself as CRAP again
"Rich" wrote in message ... On Oct 3, 6:22 pm, clw wrote: In article , Alan Browne wrote: Just proves (again) that Nikon are capable of making stupid decisions about "value" and using plastic in the wrong places. Gee, one would think from some of the posts in this thread that they thought they were buying a hand to hand combat weapon from Nikon. Except perhaps for a steel ball, there is almost nothing on earth that cannot be broken by mis-handling. True. But to expect to use a camera for say 2 years without dropping it once is probably naive and unrealistic. Maybe, just maybe you're the klutz. Do you drive a tank in case you have an accident or have found a car without plastic? You want the camera manufacturers to protect you from you. It's said, you can't teach stupid! A metal mount wouldn't have broken the way the plastic did. And neither does you car. How about ballet or yoga or some form of exercise so your synapses work better and you don't let your camera get in a precarious position. Where the problem lies is in the bayonet. The problem lies in the person that drops it. Hurry up down to the local mall, I hear they are having a sale on metal plates, glasses and windows. How many times do you need to tilt at this windmill? The horse is dead. Talk about ad nauseam noise!!!! |
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