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Old April 12th 20, 03:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default How to remove Rootkit malware from an Apple computer

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Secretaries weren't studying for degrees or even Phds.
TCP/IP wasn't 'invented' on a Mac.


nobody said it was, however, macs supported tcp/ip *long* before
windows did.


tcp/ip came before Apple existed.


nobody said otherwise.

the fact is that macs supported tcp/ip long before windows did. bill
gates even dismissed the internet.
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Old April 13th 20, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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All our macs needed boards or cards for it, with BNC connectors and T
pieces.


then your macs were very old.

Ypu mean LCs and the Macpluses


the mac plus came out in 1986 and the lc in 1990, both predating when
ethernet was on logic boards.

macs started to include ethernet on the logic board in 1991, no
additional card needed.


Not all of them only the higher end ones.


midrange too.

I remember installing them in the PDS slots , you had to remove plastic part at the back.


for low end models, sure. for others, it was on the logic board, no
additional cards needed.

pcs didn't start including ethernet on the logic board until *much*
later and even longer until it was common. they were late on wifi too,
for that matter.
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Old April 13th 20, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Not everyone needed graphics

that is nothing more than a rationalization for a lesser computer.

Not everyone need them, not everyone needed a sports car either.

that would explain why the command line is so incredibly popular today.

That has nothing to do with it.
Pens and pencil are still used today.


far more use computers than pencils.


yeah sure... keep believing that.
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/22...day-sales.html


how many handwritten letters have you sent or received lately,
especially written in pencil?

students now take notes on laptops or tablets. correspondence is via
email or texting.

Not everyone needed an idiot proof computer.

everyone does, because most people do stupid things and then blame the
computer.

That will never change.


exactly why a computer needs to be idiot-proof.


Well Apple still haven't come up with a touchscreen computer, other than
converting an iPad.


nonsense. iphones and ipads are in every way touchscreen computers.

it's also irrelevant since touch has nothing to do with being
idiot-proof.

Our lab PCs have touchscreens and cost us under 500 each.
Apple still has a relatively small share of the computer market theres a
reason.


because of microsoft's illegal and predatory business practices, and
market share has nothing to do with idiot-proof anyway.



those that used the first computers did have brains and they knew how to
use
them.


not really, since they came up with cobol.


What computer languages were Made on a Mac that could be used on other
systems ?


several, but irrelevant.

UNIX wasn't invented on a Mac.


nobody said it was.
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Old April 13th 20, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default How to remove Rootkit malware from an Apple computer

In article ,
Whisky-dave wrote:

Secretaries weren't studying for degrees or even Phds.
TCP/IP wasn't 'invented' on a Mac.

nobody said it was, however, macs supported tcp/ip *long* before
windows did.

tcp/ip came before Apple existed.


nobody said otherwise.

the fact is that macs supported tcp/ip long before windows did. bill
gates even dismissed the internet.


And steve Jobs said no one wanted a large screen phone.


irrelevant.
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Old April 13th 20, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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All laptops most bought external drives with them.

nope. people used the duo standalone, without a dock or peripheral.
whatever docks they had remained at home or work.

The docks had a floppy drive, that was part of the point of them.


only the full size dock had a floppy drive. it also had card slots.
doesn't mean any of it was used.

the minidock just added ports:
https://www.oldcomputr.com/wp-conten...le_macintosh_d
uo_minidock.jpg
https://www.oldcomputr.com/wp-conten...le_macintosh_d
uo_minidock-back.jpg
https://www.oldcomputr.com/wp-conten...le_powerbook_2
300c-minidock-undocking.jpg

third party docks also added ports, but in different combinations and
usually fewer so that the dock was smaller. the various microdocks were
quite popular, which added just one or two ports.


Again more expense and general not worth it, the duo's didn't last long and
were soon better models were out.


duos lasted roughly 7 years, a lot longer than many other models,
including the imac g3 and g4 *combined*.
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Old April 13th 20, 03:43 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 13/04/2020 1:16 pm, nospam wrote:


pcs didn't start including ethernet on the logic board until *much*
later and even longer until it was common. they were late on wifi too,
for that matter.


..... because of the more open architecture, allowing the user to install
their CHOICE of ethernet (and other) accessory boards.


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Old April 13th 20, 01:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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pcs didn't start including ethernet on the logic board until *much*
later and even longer until it was common. they were late on wifi too,
for that matter.


.... because of the more open architecture, allowing the user to install
their CHOICE of ethernet (and other) accessory boards.


first of all, there is no restriction on what add-on cards could be
designed and used with a mac and never has been. the myth that macs
were or are locked down is just that, a myth.

there were numerous ethernet cards for macs which did not have onboard
ethernet, or for those who wanted more than one ethernet port, along
with a wide variety of other cards.

the point you miss is that there is no need to use an add-on card when
something is already built in.

second, pcs were very late to the game with ethernet. macs started to
add ethernet on the logic board 30 years ago while it was still unusual
to find it on a pc even in the 2000s. pcs *had* to install a card and
then configure it appropriately. macs did not.

when pcs did include onboard ethernet, it was mostly 100base-t until
relatively recently, while macs were shipping with gigabit 20 years
ago, including laptops.

pc laptops rarely had ethernet until recently, requiring an external
usb adapter, which is not fast enough to support gigabit, leaving users
stuck with 100base-t. some laptops had pcmcia slots, which was less
clumsy than usb, but that was also not fast enough for gigabit.

third, macs have started to ship with 10gig-e as standard a couple of
years ago, which can also easily be added to any mac made in the last
roughly 7 years, including laptops, and at full 10g speed, putting it
well ahead of pc hardware. it may also work on older macs.

good luck adding 10g-e to a pc, especially a laptop.
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Old April 15th 20, 02:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Whisky-dave wrote:


students now take notes on laptops or tablets. correspondence is via
email or texting.


Students rarely take notes in lectures on anything.


oh yes they do, on their laptops or tablets.



Well Apple still haven't come up with a touchscreen computer, other than
converting an iPad.


nonsense. iphones and ipads are in every way touchscreen computers.


So why do people buy computers if they can do everything on a phone or
tablet, and other makes of phone and tablets have touchscreens too.


nobody said someone can do everything on a phone or tablet.

the fact remains that smartphones and tablets are computers.

But Apple still don't have a desktop or laptop with a touchscreen why ?


because it's a stupid idea.

mac os was never designed for touch and shoehorning touch onto it is a
guaranteed failure.

Maybe soon they will.


no they won't.

what will do is offer a touch-based operating system that can also use
a keyboard. it's called an ipad and also an iphone.



Our lab PCs have touchscreens and cost us under 500 each.
Apple still has a relatively small share of the computer market theres a
reason.


because of microsoft's illegal and predatory business practices,


MS don't really make many laptops or computers.
Our PCs are Dell.


completely missing the point.


and
market share has nothing to do with idiot-proof anyway.


Never said it did, what it proves is that not everyone wants to spend extra
on a Mca when they can do what they want with a cheaper device.
That;s why our lap has Dell PCs.


it's a myth that macs cost extra.

prices are competitive for similar specs.
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Old April 15th 20, 02:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default How to remove Rootkit malware from an Apple computer

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Whisky-dave wrote:

But Apple still don't have a desktop or laptop with a touchscreen why ?


Prhaps they remember the lesson of the first touchscreen computer, the
HP 150 of 1983. Desktop touchscreen users frequently complained of
repetitive stress injuries, reaching up from the desk level to
manipulate the screen. Eventually, the feature was discontinued.

Perhaps we get away with it now because most touchscreens are laptops
with a lower reach, or tablets with effectively none. Or perhaps
discriminating users prefer the more accurate pointer of a mouse or
tablet. (GRIN) My blunt fingers STILL give me selection errors on my
iPad.
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Old April 15th 20, 04:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 4/14/20 9:35 PM, nospam wrote:
In article ,
Whisky-dave wrote:


students now take notes on laptops or tablets. correspondence is via
email or texting.


Students rarely take notes in lectures on anything.


oh yes they do, on their laptops or tablets.


How do you know that? Have you interviewed ALL students? Or a
representative sample? At what grade level? Do you have a website cite
for your data? Is your data current? Does it take into consideration
school closures due to COVID-19?

Your experiences and observations are not universal. It's a big world
out there, and the sooner you realize that others have opinions that may
be just as valid as yours, the sooner you will be less of a noob.

--
Ken Hart

 




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