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Old October 4th 18, 08:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Oregonian Haruspex[_2_]
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Default One photog's not so great experience with Apple

RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2018/09/15/my-...hort-not-good/


I’ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs (I’m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture), and otherwise mess
with my workflow. I’ve been an Apple user for decades and I will not buy
any more of their products. I wish them well with their phoney cloudy
nonsense.

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Old October 4th 18, 08:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Oregonian Haruspex
wrote:

I¹ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs (I¹m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),


blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.

and otherwise mess
with my workflow. I¹ve been an Apple user for decades and I will not buy
any more of their products. I wish them well with their phoney cloudy
nonsense.


nothing requires anyone to use apple's icloud or any other cloud.
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Old October 4th 18, 09:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default One photog's not so great experience with Apple

On Oct 4, 2018, Oregonian Haruspex wrote
(in article ):

RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2018/09/15/my-...-photographer-
and-creative-pro-in-short-not-good/


I’ve decided to move all my computers to Free software


That is your decision to make. good luck with that.

because I have little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do


You never had any control over what App, MS, and Adobe do.

and they all seem to want to move everything into the cloud,


Using any of the cloud services makes life so much simpler, especially with
Adobe CC, and Apple iCloud.

discontinue important programs (I’m looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),


Aperture was a commercial failure, and dead in the water 4+ years ago. No
amount of chest pounding by those who loved it was ever going to resurrect
it.

and otherwise mess with my workflow.


Adapt, or die. That is all part of evolution. There are workable photo
processing workflow solutions from a whole bunch of developers for all
platforms. You don’t have to stick to Apple, or Adobe. (...but for the most
part I do.) Just remember, the better workable processing software is not
free, and some of it costs far more than subscribing to Adobe CC for
$9.99/month, and some such as Capture One is also subscriptionware, and more
expensive than Adobe CC.

Then it also depends on what you want to do with your images so you might
find that software such as Luminar, Affinity Photo, On1 Photo RAW, Alien Skin
Exposure X4, or Pixelmator Pro is just what you need.

I’ve been an Apple user for decades and I will not buy any more of their products.


Again, that is your choice, and nobody is stopping you. However, you owe it
to yourself to explore the software alternatives.

I wish them well with their phoney cloudy nonsense.


Their cloud services (Apple & Adobe, I can’t speak for MS) are far from
phony, and both provide great software, and system integration.

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Regards,
Savageduck

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Old October 6th 18, 02:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:26:19 -0400, nospam
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In article , Oregonian Haruspex
wrote:

I¹ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs (I¹m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),


blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.


Always blame the customer.

and otherwise mess
with my workflow. I¹ve been an Apple user for decades and I will not buy
any more of their products. I wish them well with their phoney cloudy
nonsense.


nothing requires anyone to use apple's icloud or any other cloud.

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old October 6th 18, 03:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I1ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs (I1m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),


blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.


Always blame the customer.


not always, but in this case, customers chose other products.

companies normally don't continue developing products that don't sell
well, or at all.
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Old October 6th 18, 03:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Oct 5, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:26:19 -0400,
wrote:

In , Oregonian Haruspex
wrote:

I¹ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs
(I¹m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),


blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.


Always blame the customer.


Aperture, as promising as it was, was a commercial failure. Part of the blame
goes to a pretentious initial price of $499 which with ver. 2.0 was reduced
to a still too high $199. Those prices made anything from Adobe look like a
bargain. While there were many who loved it there were not enough of those to
support advanced development. So Apple moved development, and support to
other areas, and Aperture was left to whither on the vine where it could not
compete with Lightroom. Those who loved it resented Apple for this allegedly
traitorous abandonment, and still longingly look back to the days Aperture
provided them with all they ever imagined they needed for their digital
photography.

Some of us Apple folks never used Aperture, or Apple photography stuff. I was
a Lightroom user from the days of the betas, and when Aperture was stupidly
overpriced.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

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Old October 6th 18, 03:48 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

I1ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all
seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs
(I1m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),

blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.


Always blame the customer.


Aperture, as promising as it was, was a commercial failure. Part of the blame
goes to a pretentious initial price of $499 which with ver. 2.0 was reduced
to a still too high $199.


actually, aperture was cut to $299 with version 1.1, and a $200 coupon
offered to early buyers:
https://www.macworld.com/article/1053472/aperture15.html

Those prices made anything from Adobe look like a
bargain.


lightroom was a huge bargain, largely because lightroom on a low end
mac mini was faster than aperture on a (then) top of the line powermac
g5 and was not supported at all on a mac mini.
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Old October 6th 18, 06:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default One photog's not so great experience with Apple

nospam wrote:
... lightroom on a low end mac mini was faster than aperture on
a (then) top of the line powermac g5 and was not supported at all
on a mac mini.


Both of which are clearly the fault of the customers! /S

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Old October 6th 18, 09:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 22:11:49 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I1ve decided to move all my computers to Free software because I have
little to no control over what Apple, MS, and Adobe do and they all seem to
want to move everything into the cloud, discontinue important programs (I1m
looking at Apple and their abandonment of Aperture),

blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.


Always blame the customer.


not always, but in this case, customers chose other products.

companies normally don't continue developing products that don't sell
well, or at all.


But it's the company's job to attract customers so saying that
"customers chose other products" would be more accurately expressed as
"customers chose better products". Which they did.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old October 6th 18, 01:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


blame users. too few people bought aperture for it to be a viable
product.

Always blame the customer.


not always, but in this case, customers chose other products.

companies normally don't continue developing products that don't sell
well, or at all.


But it's the company's job to attract customers so saying that
"customers chose other products" would be more accurately expressed as
"customers chose better products". Which they did.


it doesn't matter if the other products are better or not. what matters
is that not enough people bought a given product for it to continue.

there are plenty of not so good products that outsell better ones.
 




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