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  #81  
Old May 20th 17, 05:50 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 19 May 2017 17:11:35 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On May 19, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 20 May 2017 11:06:47 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I downloaded it once more and this time it works. Here is quick dash
with Light Room. I used the dehaze filter and some fiddling with color
temperature.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3kaynb57vi...-4603.jpg?dl=0

I understand that you just used dehaze and temperature adjustments, but
the entire color balance seems out of whack to me. I also understand
that you haven't visited Yosemite, and are not familiar with the
character of the rock in the Sierra.

The dehaze does a contrast push which emphasizes saturation. Then add,
what to my eye is way too much warming, and it becomes unnatural and
garish. When I said that is was a subdued, and overcast day I meant it.

What about this one? I've touched nothing which directly affects the
color. No dehaze. No saturation. Basically all that I affected was the
luminance. https://www.dropbox.com/s/35bheu8pon...4603a.jpg?dl=0

And then for the fun of it I tried this one:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/667qggx4dj...603PS.jpg?dl=0

I loaded it into Photoshop without any adjustments in ACR. The I
created a duplicate layer and set the mode to overlay.


Hmm...
Interesting, though it gives it a somewhat washed out feel.


That's what struck me about the original SOOC image. I'm glad I
haven't lost that. I just wanted to intensify the image.
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Eric Stevens
  #82  
Old May 20th 17, 08:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David B.[_2_]
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On 5/20/2017 3:54 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 19, 2017, Ron C wrote
(in ):

On 5/19/2017 8:57 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 19, 2017, Ron C wrote
(in ):

On 5/19/2017 8:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 19, 2017, Ron C wrote
(in ):

On 5/19/2017 7:21 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-05-19 23:06:47 +0000, Eric
said:

On Thu, 18 May 2017 22:21:45 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2017-05-19 04:55:46 +0000, Eric
said:
On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:43:07 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:
On Wed, 17 May 2017 21:56:22 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2017-05-18 04:49:46 +0000, Bill said:
On Thu, 18 May 2017 00:37:33 -0400,
wrote:
On 5/18/2017 12:07 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2017 15:55:30 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

There is more to it than that. The colors look slightly off
and the
lightin is peculiar. I have had a quick go at one of your
shots with
Photoshop although this required dabbling in unfamiliar
territory. See
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6dbcdd34m...3-EES.jpg?dl=0

Now the sky is purple...

Hmm.
Talk about ambiguity.
Song, or LGBT?

Nah, I'm a boring person. It's neither, just an objective
comment. I
wish I could do better...

Here is the RAF if you care to try.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pj7bmsr7vabc9dt/_DSF4603.raf

For some reason none of my (up todate) Adobe CC software can open
that
file. :-(

I downloaded it once more and this time it works. Here is quick dash
with Light Room. I used the dehaze filter and some fiddling with
color
temperature.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3kaynb57vi...-4603.jpg?dl=0

I understand that you just used dehaze and temperature adjustments,
but
the entire color balance seems out of whack to me. I also understand
that you haven't visited Yosemite, and are not familiar with the
character of the rock in the Sierra.

The dehaze does a contrast push which emphasizes saturation. Then add,
what to my eye is way too much warming, and it becomes unnatural and
garish. When I said that is was a subdued, and overcast day I meant
it.

What about this one? I've touched nothing which directly affects the
color. No dehaze. No saturation. Basically all that I affected was the
luminance. https://www.dropbox.com/s/35bheu8pon...4603a.jpg?dl=0

This is a rendition which to my eye works. As I said in another response
to Peter, the haze/mist deep in the valley was an integral part of the
scene that day and to try to fix all of the haze throws the entire image
off balance. There is nothing with this rendition that appears to
disturb the scene with regard to color balance, saturation, vibrance, or
sharpening.

I would say that if one would care to try for an "Adamsesque" B&W
rendition, this version would be a pretty good starting point.
I'm now wondering if a subdued color rendition could
improve on a classic "Adamsesque" B&W rendition.

[Um, no .. I'm not going to try.]

Why not?
All you need is the inclination, and the time.

Let's call that rhetorical.

However, I might add that I've:
[1] Never been to Yosemite
[2] Haven't really seriously studied Adams
[3] Don't really have the inclination (see [1]&[2] above)

Fair enough. #3 is the controlling factor for now.

With regard to #2, If you have any interest in one (or any) of our great
photographic innovators consider several books; “Ansel Adams: The
Camera”, “The Negative: Ansel Adams Photography”, “Examples; The
Making of 40 photographs: Ansel Adams”, “Ansel Adams in The National
Parks”, and “Ansel Adams in Color” all are available from Amazon, or
via the Apple iBooks store.

As to #1, if you have any sort of US travel bucket list I would highly
recommend considering visits to a few of the Western National Parks such as
Yosemite NP, Sequoia-Kings Canyon NP, Zion NP, North and South Rim of Grand
Canyon NP, Death Valley NP. There are others, but try those for starters.
https://www.nps.gov/findapark/index.htm

I have another recommendation for any old farts over 62, who might be
considering visiting National Parks anywhere in the US. Visit your closest
NP
as soon as possible and buy a *Senior Lifetime Pass*, it is currently a
bargain at $10, but is soon going to be increased to $80. It has been the
best $10 I have spent. Without that Senior lifetime pass, regular 7 day
vehicle entry to the parks is $30, and an annual pass is $80.


Thanks. Did not know about the *Senior Lifetime Pass* but not
sure there's much value to the pass here in New Jersey.


Is there a good reason to stick to NJ?
I am sure that a little research should find someplace which might grab your
interest. I don’t restrict myself to California, I look to most of the West
in Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico as all fair game. If I head
back East I have a few places I would like to visit, such as Acadia NP.

Also as to #1, I've never been big on travel. Though I have enjoyed
the work related travels. [Usually sans camera. :-( ]


Of course the big part of work related travel is the light hit to the wallet.
The choice is always yours, I just think there is so much to appreciate with
what we have in this country, and it is sad to waste our good fortune by
ignoring what is in our backyard. The question, if you are in reasonable
health and are not otherwise occupied, is why not take a trip, any trip?

What else is there to do?

My next plan is to take the Coast Starlight for a train trip up to Seattle
for a few days. Then of course there is the Rolex Monterey Motorsport Revival
at Laguna Seca in August, but for me that is pretty much local.

Re #2, I tend to be more of a Peter Max than an Adams.
I have absolute respect for Adam's work, but not my thing.


All well and good. However, there is no harm in a boardening of scope.


Even *I* have been to view the Grand Canyon (absolutely awesome!) and
driven right across Death Valley!

The USA is truly a wonderful country .... away from the cities! ;-)

--
David B.


  #83  
Old May 20th 17, 04:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 5/19/2017 8:57 PM, Savageduck wrote:

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I have another recommendation for any old farts over 62, who might be
considering visiting National Parks anywhere in the US. Visit your closest NP
as soon as possible and buy a *Senior Lifetime Pass*, it is currently a
bargain at $10, but is soon going to be increased to $80. It has been the
best $10 I have spent. Without that Senior lifetime pass, regular 7 day
vehicle entry to the parks is $30, and an annual pass is $80.


Absolutely the best bargain.


--
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Old May 20th 17, 05:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 5/19/2017 10:13 PM, Ron C wrote:

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Thanks. Did not know about the *Senior Lifetime Pass* but not
sure there's much value to the pass here in New Jersey.

National parks in NJ:

https://njmonthly.com/articles/historic-jersey/11-new-jersey-national-parks-you-need-to-visit/

There are lots of others in NY and PA. the pass gives you free admission
and parking.

Also as to #1, I've never been big on travel. Though I have enjoyed
the work related travels. [Usually sans camera. :-( ]

Re #2, I tend to be more of a Peter Max than an Adams.
I have absolute respect for Adam's work, but not my thing.


While this is not a Peter Max, it was influenced by his work:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7izryxkg39adxkf/variation.jpg?dl=0

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  #85  
Old May 20th 17, 05:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Ron C
wrote:

Thanks. Did not know about the *Senior Lifetime Pass* but not
sure there's much value to the pass here in New Jersey.


the best parts of new jersey is where there are signs that say "welcome
to new york" and in second place, "welcome to pennsylvania".
  #86  
Old May 22nd 17, 03:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 5/19/2017 7:03 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/19/2017 5:29 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 5/19/2017 5:59 AM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/18/2017 10:49 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2017 22:46:09 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/18/2017 10:35 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-05-19 02:26:04 +0000, PeterN
said:

On 5/18/2017 8:35 PM, Bill W wrote:


snip


Good to hear. I usually go for accuracy, but decided to just go
with
what I felt looked nice to my eye.


I go for impression, rarely for accuracy.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2quthg7matfxs8/Boron%20Botanical1filtered.jpg?dl=0





Your are, if nothing else, artistically predictable. ;-)

My impression of a Chihuly.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8w53i3y3m9cv8m/Dale%20Chihuly1.jpg?dl=0

That man belongs in art prison for fraud.


You may not like it, but it is art. He has a major exhibit at the BBG.

Darn, for a moment I thought this thread was going to
drift in to the weird world of artistic impressions.


I wouldn't want this hanging on my wall, yet I guess it is art.

http://www.thefader.com/2017/05/18/jean-michel-basquiat-painting-sold-for-a-record-110-million



I'm with you on that one. All a mater of taste. I love heavy metal, my
mom and dad always said it was horrible noise.
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Old May 22nd 17, 04:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PAS wrote:

I'm with you on that one. All a mater of taste. I love heavy metal, my
mom and dad always said it was horrible noise.


have you heard grindcore?
  #88  
Old May 22nd 17, 04:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 5/22/2017 11:10 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

I'm with you on that one. All a mater of taste. I love heavy metal, my
mom and dad always said it was horrible noise.

have you heard grindcore?


Ugh, don't like it at all. Same for death metal.

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Old May 22nd 17, 04:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PAS wrote:

I'm with you on that one. All a mater of taste. I love heavy metal, my
mom and dad always said it was horrible noise.

have you heard grindcore?


Ugh, don't like it at all. Same for death metal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dun7KkHd1qA
  #90  
Old May 22nd 17, 05:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 5/22/2017 11:51 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

I'm with you on that one. All a mater of taste. I love heavy metal, my
mom and dad always said it was horrible noise.
have you heard grindcore?

Ugh, don't like it at all. Same for death metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dun7KkHd1qA


Very cool!

 




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