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Sony's Oly investment
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/09/.../?ref=business
or http://tinyurl.com/c67hlfn "The two companies will also consider cooperating in digital cameras, they said." So we shouldn't expect any fruit from this union for digital cameras for some time. At the glacial pace of Japanese ventures we may see something in a few years or more. -- "There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office." -Sir John A. Macdonald |
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In article , Alan Browne
says... So we shouldn't expect any fruit from this union for digital cameras for some time. At the glacial pace of Japanese ventures we may see something in a few years or more. The cooperation has already been going on for some time. The sensor of the OM-D is from Sony. Olympus has always been struggling to get decent sensors for their cameras and now they seem to have solved the problem. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 2012.09.28 15:02 , Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne says... So we shouldn't expect any fruit from this union for digital cameras for some time. At the glacial pace of Japanese ventures we may see something in a few years or more. The cooperation has already been going on for some time. The sensor of the OM-D is from Sony. Olympus has always been struggling to get decent sensors for their cameras and now they seem to have solved the problem. That's just component supply. Sony manufacture all sorts of chips that you will find in a wide array of products. The investment at hand is in the medical imaging side with the companies also considering in digital cameras (see what you snipped from the prior post). -- "There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office." -Sir John A. Macdonald |
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In article , Alan Browne
says... That's just component supply. The sensor is the most important component in a camera... -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 2012.09.29 04:51 , Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne says... That's just component supply. The sensor is the most important component in a camera... In the context of the investment at hand it is completely irrelevant. It's just the existing supply of components. The sentence you snipped (regarding cameras): "The two companies will also consider cooperating in digital cameras, they said." ... likely means higher integration. Perhaps EVF's, optics, firmware, software, etc. Perhaps Sony will source lenses to Oly and/or v.v. But that's not part of the investment at hand either so far. -- "There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office." -Sir John A. Macdonald |
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In article , Alan Browne
says... In the context of the investment at hand it is completely irrelevant. It's just the existing supply of components. But it is highly relevant for photographers. This is not a forum for investors. The sentence you snipped (regarding cameras): "The two companies will also consider cooperating in digital cameras, they said." ... likely means higher integration. Perhaps EVF's, optics, firmware, software, etc. Perhaps Sony will source lenses to Oly and/or v.v. But that's not part of the investment at hand either so far. Possibly Sony and Oly will share more components, but again this is not a problem. Both companies have strengths in specific areas. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 2012.09.29 11:14 , Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne says... In the context of the investment at hand it is completely irrelevant. It's just the existing supply of components. But it is highly relevant for photographers. This is not a forum for investors. The original posting was to clear up the fact that the Sony investment in Oly would have no effect on photographers in the near term. Or even ever. -- "There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office." -Sir John A. Macdonald |
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In article , Alan Browne
says... The original posting was to clear up the fact that the Sony investment in Oly would have no effect on photographers in the near term. Or even ever. The availability of a good image sensor has a very big effect for photographers. Olympus has always been struggling here. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 30/09/2012 7:16 a.m., Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne says... The original posting was to clear up the fact that the Sony investment in Oly would have no effect on photographers in the near term. Or even ever. The availability of a good image sensor has a very big effect for photographers. Olympus has always been struggling here. There was probably no real reason why they couldn't have used Sony sensors earlier (than the OMD E5), presumably Olympus was using Sony sensor for P&S cameras, so they would have already had a relationship. With larger format (4/3 - 35mm) it seems that Sony have worked their way into a very strong position. CMOSIS (supplying the new Leica M) seem to use similar technology to Sony Exmor (on-chip 14 bit column AD conversion). It will be interesting to see how it performs against the (same pixel pitch) Nikon D600 sensor. I don't think it will win - it will be a generation behind, perhaps similar to the D3x. Claimed 76dB linear dynamic range is less (about 12.6 vs 13.4 stops), FWC is also just over 1/2 that of the D600. |
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Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne says... That's just component supply. The sensor is the most important component in a camera... The lens is more important (assuming your only goal is image quality). It collects and focusses the light, hopefully avoiding too many lens imperfections (especially the ones you can't fix in post). The sensor only records, and even mobile phone camera sensors do good enough with good light. Now, if you meant "camera body", you might have a point. But again, depending on your type of shooting, you might need fast, reliable, predictive AF more than the best sensor. Or you might need good automatics for the JPEG engine more --- imagine you shoot for newspaper or the web and need the photo really quick (say sports), so no time for raw converting and WB fixing. Or you need to hold your camera for long time spans, then it must be comfortable to hold. No good sensor will help you if your hand is too tired to properly hold the camera. How about long battery life? Or tilt&swivel LCD, for those types of shooting where even an angle finder won't do? "XXX is the most important component in a camera" assumes far too much about the circumstances of the shooting to be true. -Wolfgang |
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