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  #51  
Old September 24th 17, 04:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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On 2017-09-23 23:06, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow,
it didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.


What's high?* What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography.* Say 30 MB
per image.* That would be 13000+ images.* Say you cut that in half so
you can do lot's of roadshow editing.* How long does it take to fill
6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography.* An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.


RAW size for a D800

Image quality*** Image size*** File size*2
FX (36x24)*1
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 12-bit*** -*** 32.4 MB
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 14-bit*** -*** 41.3 MB
NEF (RAW), Compressed, 12-bit*** -*** 29.0 MB

Also, there were times I wanted to do some procession. My laptop had a
17" screen. The iPad also belongs to my wife. Every day I took the days
shooting, and downloaded it onto the Notebook, and backed up to 2
portable HDs. If I did any processing the file size increased.


So, how many thousand photos do you shoot per week or so?
  #52  
Old September 24th 17, 04:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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On 2017-09-23 17:49, Davoud wrote:
Alan Browne:
I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.


Stop me if you've heard this one.

If any of the following is true

€ you are a professional
€ you are an amateur
€ your photographs are important to you
€ you have a large number of photographs to manage
€ you prefer doing things the easy way

then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face if you are
boycotting Adobe for some reason.


Not at all. I have CS5 and that is more than sufficient for 99.99% of
what I do. (Which even includes occasional paid photography).

What I do not support is rental s/w. That's Adobe's new path. If I
were a full time photographer, then I'd go for it. But "renting"
spinning s/w that I don't use for stretches is a stretch.

Meanwhile other suppliers are coming out with competitive products that
do as much as most people need.

Discussed and closed before. That's it for me.
  #53  
Old September 24th 17, 04:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

OK! That didn?t take long, exactly 1 minute 41.44 seconds.

The RAF?s were from an X-E2, sized 33.8 MB, 33.8 MB, & 33.7 MB
respectively.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkfwoty85afy0ek/RAF-iC.png


PTGUI merges a three pic pano (24MP each) in 5 seconds on my four years
old notebook with a core i7. That's 20 times faster than your ipad.


I hope you are comparing a similar process workflow, not just the time the
merge/pano stitching took. If so I will retime for just that portion of the
test.


he obviously has a stick up his ass about tablets.

Just to be clear. that was for the whole task, which included selecting the
three RAW files from my desktop hard drive, loading them to the iCloud Drive,
opening Affinity Photo on the iPad, selecting the three RAF files from the
iCloud folder for pano stitching, and completing the crop.


even more of a bogus comparison.

The actual
merge/pano stitch was probably in the region of 5-8 seconds.


sounds about right.

Anyway, the bottom line is, given the negligible amount of time I devote to
producing panoramas when travelling, I am not too concerned if producing a
pano is going to take 5, 10, or 20 seconds or 1-5 minutes.I might take a road
trip where the thought of capturing a panorama never enters my mind. So for
that the iPad is OK if I ever need that function on the road.

Did I mention that panos are not really as big a thing for me, as they are
for you? It is not as if that time spent to produce a single pano, was a
massive part of my life wasted.


that, and the significant advantage of an ipad being much smaller and
lighter than a 15" laptop, plus being able to do more travel related
tasks, such as uploading those photos from just about anywhere.
  #54  
Old September 24th 17, 04:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Alan Browne
wrote:


then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face if you are
boycotting Adobe for some reason.


Not at all. I have CS5 and that is more than sufficient for 99.99% of
what I do. (Which even includes occasional paid photography).

What I do not support is rental s/w. That's Adobe's new path. If I
were a full time photographer, then I'd go for it. But "renting"
spinning s/w that I don't use for stretches is a stretch.


lightroom and photoshop elements are available for purchase.

Meanwhile other suppliers are coming out with competitive products that
do as much as most people need.


while that's true, photoshop elements also does as much as most people
need, no rental required.
  #55  
Old September 24th 17, 04:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital, alt.photography
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On Sep 24, 2017, android wrote
(in ):

In ,
nospam wrote:

In , android
wrote:

OK! That didn?t take long, exactly 1 minute 41.44 seconds.

The RAF?s were from an X-E2, sized 33.8 MB, 33.8 MB, & 33.7 MB
respectively.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkfwoty85afy0ek/RAF-iC.png

PTGUI merges a three pic pano (24MP each) in 5 seconds on my four years
old notebook with a core i7. That's 20 times faster than your ipad.

ios devices (ipad or iphone) shoot panoramas in real time, no stitching
needed.

Real time panoramas are vertical micro tiles stitched on the fly. Take a
better look. The arn't that good though, compared to the real thang but
for them holiday snaps they'll give you that wider view.


they are the real thing and are as good as the person making them.


iStuff panos are stitched micro tiles and limited by their tiny cameras.


BTW: Since there is a panorama function in many cameras today, I just
happened to use the one in the X-E2 to shoot the same scene as the three shot
test, with a single left to right pan.

Here is that result with no post processing in any computer.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5uqkt6aiie736u/X2-pano.jpeg

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Regards,
Savageduck

  #56  
Old September 24th 17, 04:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

On Sep 24, 2017, android wrote
(in ):

In ,
nospam wrote:

In , android
wrote:

OK! That didn?t take long, exactly 1 minute 41.44 seconds.

The RAF?s were from an X-E2, sized 33.8 MB, 33.8 MB, & 33.7 MB
respectively.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkfwoty85afy0ek/RAF-iC.png

PTGUI merges a three pic pano (24MP each) in 5 seconds on my four
years
old notebook with a core i7. That's 20 times faster than your ipad.

ios devices (ipad or iphone) shoot panoramas in real time, no
stitching
needed.

Real time panoramas are vertical micro tiles stitched on the fly. Take
a
better look. The arn't that good though, compared to the real thang but
for them holiday snaps they'll give you that wider view.

they are the real thing and are as good as the person making them.


iStuff panos are stitched micro tiles and limited by their tiny cameras.


BTW: Since there is a panorama function in many cameras today, I just
happened to use the one in the X-E2 to shoot the same scene as the three shot
test, with a single left to right pan.

Here is that result with no post processing in any computer.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5uqkt6aiie736u/X2-pano.jpeg


Did you lose the lower part of the pano? Try tilting the cam downwards a
tad the next time...
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  #57  
Old September 24th 17, 05:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
PeterN[_7_]
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On 9/23/2017 11:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 23, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 9/23/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm. 512 GB is quite a lot then. No issue. No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow,
it didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

What's high? What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography. Say 30 MB
per image. That would be 13000+ images. Say you cut that in half so
you can do lot's of roadshow editing. How long does it take to fill
6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography. An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.


RAW size for a D800

Image quality Image size File size*2
FX (36x24)*1
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 12-bit - 32.4 MB
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 14-bit - 41.3 MB
NEF (RAW), Compressed, 12-bit - 29.0 MB

Also, there were times I wanted to do some procession. My laptop had a
17" screen. The iPad also belongs to my wife. Every day I took the days
shooting, and downloaded it onto the Notebook, and backed up to 2
portable HDs. If I did any processing the file size increased.


...and you also have your D500.


Yes. I started thinking about trading in my D800 for a D850, mainly
because of the articulating back.

As for me and the iPad with the X-T2 APS-C, 6000 x 4000 files I have this:

RAF (RAW) uncompressed 14-bit = 50.6 MB
RAF (RAW) lossless compressed 14-bit = 21-25 MB

JPEG, content dependant SOOC, = 10.1-15.6 MB

The iPad Pro with 512 GB on board does just fine with those files.


Some of my friends have Fuji cameras, and the really like them.


I am talking about several years ago. I think it was the right decision
for me. As i have posted, we are not able to travel for more than a few
days. Taking a notebook is no big deal. Just another piece of luggage in
the car.

--
PeterN
  #58  
Old September 24th 17, 06:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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In article .com,
Savageduck says...
The actual
merge/pano stitch was probably in the region of 5-8 seconds.


Then what took 1 minute and 41 seconds?
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  #59  
Old September 24th 17, 06:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
PeterN[_7_]
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On 9/24/2017 11:08 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 17:49, Davoud wrote:
Alan Browne:
I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.


Stop me if you've heard this one.

If any of the following is true

€ you are a professional
€ you are an amateur
€ your photographs are important to you
€ you have a large number of photographs to manage
€ you prefer doing things the easy way

then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face if you are
boycotting Adobe for some reason.


Not at all.Â* I have CS5 and that is more than sufficient for 99.99% of
what I do.Â* (Which even includes occasional paid photography).

What I do not support is rental s/w.Â* That's Adobe's new path.Â* If I
were a full time photographer, then I'd go for it.Â* But "renting"
spinning s/w that I don't use for stretches is a stretch.

Meanwhile other suppliers are coming out with competitive products that
do as much as most people need.

Discussed and closed before.Â* That's it for me.


I like the concept of choice. Each of us should use what they feel more
comfortable using. The preceding sentence applies to cameras, software,
and computers.


--
PeterN
  #60  
Old September 24th 17, 06:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
PeterN[_7_]
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On 9/24/2017 11:03 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 23:06, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow,
it didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

What's high?* What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography.* Say 30
MB per image.* That would be 13000+ images.* Say you cut that in half
so you can do lot's of roadshow editing.* How long does it take to
fill 6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography.* An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.


RAW size for a D800

Image quality*** Image size*** File size*2
FX (36x24)*1
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 12-bit*** -*** 32.4 MB
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 14-bit*** -*** 41.3 MB
NEF (RAW), Compressed, 12-bit*** -*** 29.0 MB

Also, there were times I wanted to do some procession. My laptop had a
17" screen. The iPad also belongs to my wife. Every day I took the
days shooting, and downloaded it onto the Notebook, and backed up to 2
portable HDs. If I did any processing the file size increased.


So, how many thousand photos do you shoot per week or so?


When on a photo travel, it would not have been unusual to shoot over 400
a day. yes I did get rid of most.

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