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  #701  
Old October 5th 14, 11:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_5_]
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On 10/5/2014 2:51 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I gaae him some common uses. He typically uses "edge case' to give him
wriggle room.


wrong again.

what i call an edge case is an edge case and what you're calling common
can be done *without* lab more easily and with better quality results.

in other words, you're blaming others for your own lack of knowledge
and unwillingness to learn.


Well then explain with facts and detail.
Warning. I have Dan's book and will use it as a reference.

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  #702  
Old October 5th 14, 11:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2014.10.05, 14:42 , PeterN wrote:

We went through all this some many months ago. I demonstrated clearly
that the amount of 'loss' was negligible in practical terms.



I would use the terem "color change." anstead of loss.


Any change is a quality loss. Whether that is colour difference, tone,
brightness, sharpness ... whatever, it's a loss.

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  #703  
Old October 6th 14, 01:50 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 10/5/2014 3:57 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 14:57:51 -0400, nospam
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

However, LAB is great for color changes that maintain subtle
tonality. e.g channel swapping.


you must be kidding.


Why?




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Old October 6th 14, 01:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 10/5/2014 5:20 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

However, LAB is great for color changes that maintain subtle
tonality. e.g channel swapping.

you must be kidding.


Why?


channel swapping is hardly subtle, *especially* in lab.


Who said channel swapping was subtle.
Do learn to read.

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  #705  
Old October 6th 14, 01:54 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 17:20:44 -0400, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

However, LAB is great for color changes that maintain subtle
tonality. e.g channel swapping.

you must be kidding.


Why?


channel swapping is hardly subtle, *especially* in lab.


You must be very clumsy.
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  #706  
Old October 6th 14, 01:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_5_]
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On 10/5/2014 6:57 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2014.10.05, 14:42 , PeterN wrote:

We went through all this some many months ago. I demonstrated clearly
that the amount of 'loss' was negligible in practical terms.



I would use the terem "color change." anstead of loss.


Any change is a quality loss. Whether that is colour difference, tone,
brightness, sharpness ... whatever, it's a loss.


Then you are using a different definition of quality. Certainly you are
not saying one cannot have a change for the better.

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  #707  
Old October 6th 14, 02:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

However, LAB is great for color changes that maintain subtle
tonality. e.g channel swapping.

you must be kidding.

Why?


channel swapping is hardly subtle, *especially* in lab.


Who said channel swapping was subtle.


you did.
  #708  
Old October 6th 14, 02:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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Default Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

However, LAB is great for color changes that maintain subtle
tonality. e.g channel swapping.

you must be kidding.

Why?


channel swapping is hardly subtle, *especially* in lab.


You must be very clumsy.


nope.
  #709  
Old October 6th 14, 02:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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Default Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)

In article , PeterN
wrote:


I gaae him some common uses. He typically uses "edge case' to give him
wriggle room.


wrong again.

what i call an edge case is an edge case and what you're calling common
can be done *without* lab more easily and with better quality results.

in other words, you're blaming others for your own lack of knowledge
and unwillingness to learn.


Well then explain with facts and detail.
Warning. I have Dan's book and will use it as a reference.


that's your problem. dan is wrong and reading his books has led you
astray.

if you read other books, you'll see that they consistently prove just
how much of an idiot dan really is. i've mentioned two such books in
this thread and other books in other threads.
  #710  
Old October 6th 14, 02:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

You have never noticed the ease of a color change in LAB, compared to
making a similar color change in RGB.

YOu have never brought out color using LAB that could not easily be
brought out in RGB.


nonsense.

you just don't know how to do it in rgb.


Well let's see a FACTUAL comparison.


read the books i've already mentioned.

you won't, because you only want to argue.
 




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