Ken Rockwell and his "Pro" friends...

In article ,
Robert Peirce wrote:

So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.

It is a joke. There was/is a video blog that is meant as a joke and the
woman says she uses P for professional.

Ok, I hadn't seen that one, but that's just one of the hilarious
comments in that passage.



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Sandman[.net]

In article ,
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.

If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
you something you can work with in Photoshop.

I can't imagine when Program mode is actually useful to
anyone that knows the camera well.

Well, I have my camera set up with different profiles. In the profile I
named "Casual" the camera is set in Program mode and auto ISO and it
saves JPG files. I might as well call it Rockwell mode

It's for the times when you don't have time to care about the minutia
and you're just shooting to save some memories, not to create "art"

But AutoISO, at least on Nikon models with that high
dynamic range that every model since the D3 has had, is
a fantastic way to have auto exposure while using Manual
Mode to control the artistic effects of shutter and
aperture.





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Sandman[.net]

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , Sandman
wrote:

So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

read his about page. he considers his site to be a joke, much like the
onion, and intentionally says stupid stuff. he thinks it's funny.
nobody else does.

Well, to be fair, he is in a great position. He make a living shooting
and has the time to mess about on a popular camera gear site. I kind of
like that there is a staff of writers and a publisher. It's a bit more
personal and I may miss some of his "jokes" because I hadn't seen a
video where the "P for Professional" was founded.

But yeah, he's a bit over the top and his views are more relevant to the
casual camera buyer than for people like us.


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Sandman[.net]

In article , Sandman
wrote:

But yeah, he's a bit over the top and his views are more relevant to the
casual camera buyer than for people like us.

definitely not.

the casual camera buyer is misled by what he writes. they can't tell
when he's making up stuff and when it's true. they don't realize most
of what he posts is pure bull****.

Le 09/08/2013 00:21, Floyd L. Davidson a écrit :

I can't imagine when Program mode is actually useful to
anyone that knows the camera well.

Point and shoot the photo of one in a lifetime, then think, rather than
the opposite and the photo is gone.

But AutoISO, at least on Nikon models with that high
dynamic range that every model since the D3 has had, is
a fantastic way to have auto exposure while using Manual
Mode to control the artistic effects of shutter and
aperture.

I use fixed aperture (f16 for maximum depth of field combined with
minimum diffraction) and fixed speed (1/250 to avoid movements blurring)
and flash for my photos of insects with a D7000.
Automatic iso : 200 with a limit to 400 or 800 is a very nice way to
automatically balance flash light with available light.

On 8/9/2013 3:48 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/8/2013 10:00 AM, Sandman wrote:
So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.


You! His reviews are only a starting oint for evaluation.

That's what I said.



Sorry! I lost my head. didn't realize I was allowed to agree with you.

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PeterN

In article ,
PeterN wrote:

So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.

You! His reviews are only a starting oint for evaluation.

That's what I said.

Sorry! I lost my head. didn't realize I was allowed to agree with you.

No worries, I thought you had misread. You sounded so confrontational
with the "You!" like in "You there!"


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Sandman[.net]

In article ,
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

I can't imagine when Program mode is actually useful to
anyone that knows the camera well.

I think it is more than knowing the camera. You would also have to be
able to judge the light without a meter and instantly set your camera
accordingly. If it takes more than a fraction of a second you may have
lost the shot.

Years ago I used to use a 4x5 camera and a spot meter. You could easily
spend 15 or 20 minutes setting up. I like program mode (P, S & A) for
the times when I don't have that option. The only time I ever use
manual is when I am after a particularly unusual shot. Otherwise, one
of the program modes and the ability to diddle my Nikon is enough.

In article ,
Robert Peirce wrote:

I can't imagine when Program mode is actually useful to
anyone that knows the camera well.

I think it is more than knowing the camera. You would also have to be
able to judge the light without a meter and instantly set your camera
accordingly. If it takes more than a fraction of a second you may have
lost the shot.

Years ago I used to use a 4x5 camera and a spot meter. You could easily
spend 15 or 20 minutes setting up. I like program mode (P, S & A) for
the times when I don't have that option. The only time I ever use
manual is when I am after a particularly unusual shot. Otherwise, one
of the program modes and the ability to diddle my Nikon is enough.

Funny, because Nikon and Canon both have built in light metering and
have displays in the viewfinder that shows whether your scene is over or
underexposed according to it, so in manual mode finding the correct
aperture/shutter is done in seconds (well, going from 6 seconds to
1/4000 seconds does take a while on the knob) and you can easily
determine on the fly if you want it slightly over- or underexposed.

I always have my camera in manual mode (if I'm not in casual mode, as I
outlined earlier) because it gives me the greatest control.

I can think of a few scenarions where A and S mode is appropriate, but I
rarely find myself in them though.

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Sandman[.net]

On 8/9/2013 11:07 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/9/2013 3:48 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/8/2013 10:00 AM, Sandman wrote:
So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.


You! His reviews are only a starting oint for evaluation.

That's what I said.



Sorry! I lost my head. didn't realize I was allowed to agree with you.

You're wasting bandwidth!

And double posting isn't?


Whatever... I think that Promodes are among them things that make the
new technology era a soothing something that all dufuses of man kind
can share. Sortof...



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PeterN