Ken Rockwell and his "Pro" friends...

On 8/8/2013 4:37 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:



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Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.

If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
you something you can work with in Photoshop.


It's also a help when the shot calls for a controlled shutter speed, and
aperture.


--
PeterN

Robert Peirce wrote:
Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.

If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
you something you can work with in Photoshop.

I can't imagine when Program mode is actually useful to
anyone that knows the camera well.

But AutoISO, at least on Nikon models with that high
dynamic range that every model since the D3 has had, is
a fantastic way to have auto exposure while using Manual
Mode to control the artistic effects of shutter and
aperture.

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:30:08 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
: On 8/8/2013 4:37 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:
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: Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
: time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.
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: If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
: to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
: you something you can work with in Photoshop.
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: It's also a help when the shot calls for a controlled shutter speed, and
: aperture.

The operative phrase in this discussion is "on Nikons". If Canon is looking
for new features to justify a 7D Mk II, how about including a more usable auto
ISO?

Bob

On 2013-08-08 16:35:05 -0700, Robert Coe said:

On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:30:08 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
: On 8/8/2013 4:37 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:
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: snip
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: Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
: time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.
:
: If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
: to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
: you something you can work with in Photoshop.
:
:
: It's also a help when the shot calls for a controlled shutter speed, and
: aperture.

The operative phrase in this discussion is "on Nikons". If Canon is looking
for new features to justify a 7D Mk II, how about including a more usable auto
ISO?

Strange, I thought this discussion was about Rockwell and his
sarcastic/ironic "Professional ("P" mode)" remark in his less than
favorable review of the Sony RX1.


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 8/8/2013 7:35 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:30:08 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
: On 8/8/2013 4:37 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:
:
:
:
: snip
:
:
: Auto ISO is also a neat trick, at least on Nikons, if you don't have the
: time to fiddle and don't set it to a ridiculous range.
:
: If the most important thing is to get the shot, and you don't have time
: to customize everything going in, P and Auto ISO will almost always give
: you something you can work with in Photoshop.
:
:
: It's also a help when the shot calls for a controlled shutter speed, and
: aperture.

The operative phrase in this discussion is "on Nikons". If Canon is looking
for new features to justify a 7D Mk II, how about including a more usable auto
ISO?

Had you posted this a few months ago I would have brought that up with
the marketing manager for Canon cameras. (By pure chance I found myself
sitting next to him in a local sushi bar.)


--
PeterN

In article , Robert Coe
wrote:

The operative phrase in this discussion is "on Nikons". If Canon is looking
for new features to justify a 7D Mk II, how about including a more usable auto
ISO?

how isn't it usable?

it's a little different than how nikon works, but that's about it.

On 08/08/2013 18:10, Bowser wrote:
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Rockewll is, and has been clueless for a long time. His site is best
ignored. Remember, this is the same guy who has published
"review/tests" of gear he's never even held. The same guy who says
tripods are no longer necessary. The same guy who says shooting raw is
a waste of time because you're just going to convert to JPG anyway.

Read his "about" section. In it he freely admits that the site is a
joke. As is he.

I am inclined to agree with him about tripods and raw, at least for my
style of photography! Won't apply to everyone, though.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

In article ,
says...
The same guy who says
tripods are no longer necessary.

With high ISO and IS tripods are less necessary nowadays.
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Alfred Molon
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Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

In article 2013080810024075249-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

Judging from the opinion he expressed in the review, I have a feeling
that his use of "Professional ("P" mode)" was sarcastically ironic.

Really? Why do you think that? I didn't interprete it as that at all...

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.

I think he wrote that review the way he did, because he is not in
anyway impressed with that particular over-priced Sony with
questionable performance, and lack of shooter controllability where it
should exist.

Well, the rest of the world is raving about the RX1. It's not up
everyones alley of course, but I still found the passage quite hilarious.


--
Sandman[.net]

In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/8/2013 10:00 AM, Sandman wrote:
So I read his RX1 review since I am considering getting one.

http://kenrockwell.com/sony/rx1.htm

"Shot in Professional ("P" mode) and Auto ISO, as I and my pro
friends always shoot and..."

Uhm, say what? I know Ken Rockwell doesn't get much cred amongst serious
photographers, and I even think it's quite ok for him to set his camera
to an automatic mode (P is for Program, not Professional), but to claim
that his "pro" friends also does this? Isn't that just a bit too
presumptuous?

I like his site, he has some wild ideas but his lens reviews offer a
pretty good base to go from, but why would you write something like this?

Hilarious.


You! His reviews are only a starting oint for evaluation.

That's what I said.


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Sandman[.net]