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4008-MegxonC480
"Steve Yelland" wrote in message ...
Can anyone tell me if this cam is worth getting. http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Pra...media-4008.jpg Not sure what it is. Any thoughts? Sounds like a generic digital camera (Aiptek, Muztek, whatever) with a pseudo badge. I would stay away from it and stick with one of the major manufacturers like Olympus. |
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"David J Taylor" wrote in message ...
For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an essential feature. That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very little or no use for IS. Going back to the old days, the best photographers lived without such tools as IS. The emphasis was on optics. The Olympus C-8080 has a lens on it with virtually no distortion throughout the entire zoom range. This can not be said about any other ZLR. Different people have different needs. (Depeche Mode) :-) |
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Lukas Varossieau wrote:
"David J Taylor" wrote in message ... For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an essential feature. That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very little or no use for IS. But neither would you be buying a camera with a long zoom lens for landscapes. If you need the long zoom, IS is /not/ a luxury, and in fact if you want to get the best out of a camera by shooting at e.g. ISO 50 IS is not even a luxury for wider angle shots, but a very useful feature to enable those lower light hand-held shots to be sharp without needing that tripod. David |
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"David J Taylor" wrote in
: Lukas Varossieau wrote: "David J Taylor" wrote in message ... For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an essential feature. That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very little or no use for IS. But neither would you be buying a camera with a long zoom lens for landscapes. If you need the long zoom, IS is /not/ a luxury, and in fact if you want to get the best out of a camera by shooting at e.g. ISO 50 IS is not even a luxury for wider angle shots, but a very useful feature to enable those lower light hand-held shots to be sharp without needing that tripod. Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs. The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their respective lenses. -- Bill |
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Woodchuck Bill wrote:
[] Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs. The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their respective lenses. What has surprised me though, Bill, is how useful a tool IS is in any case, even for wide-angle shots. We were recently comparing the Nikon 8400 and the Panasonic FZ20 in less that ideal daylight, quite a miserable day to be honest, and the smaller aperture of the 8400 at 85mm focal length was requiring shutter speeds of 1/8 whereas it was 1/30 on the FZ20. With the IS, hand-holding 85mm at 1/30 is no problem, whereas the 8400 required support to avoid blur. So while some of the gain was the f/2.8 lens, the IS helped a lot. I hadn't expected this (although I'd done the sums, hence the FZ20 rather than the Niko 8800), and now really want IS even in a wide-angle camera. Cheers, David |
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Lukas Varossieau decided to say......
That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very little or no use for IS. Going back to the old days, the best photographers lived without such tools as IS. The emphasis was on optics. The Olympus C-8080 has a lens on it with virtually no distortion throughout the entire zoom range. This can not be said about any other ZLR. The Panasonics have very good optics too. Don't forget about the Leica lenses. |
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Woodchuck Bill decided to say......
Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs. The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their respective lenses. The FZ10 has been replaced by the FZ15. Both are fine cameras, though neither should be compared to the 8 MP Oly 8080. The FZ20 is the high end model of the Pansonic long zooms, at 5MP. |
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"Yuri Drekov" wrote in message ...
Woodchuck Bill decided to say...... Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs. The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their respective lenses. The FZ10 has been replaced by the FZ15. Both are fine cameras, though neither should be compared to the 8 MP Oly 8080. The FZ20 is the high end model of the Pansonic long zooms, at 5MP. Are you saying that the FZ20 should be compared to the Olympus Camedia C-8080? The Olympus is 8 megapixel, the Panasonic is 5. The Panasonic is a long zoom, the Olympus is a wide zoom. I am not saying that the Panasonic is a poor camera. All reviews put it at the top of the long zoom 5 megapixel selection, but the Olympus has much greater resolution and a superior lens. Some of us do not need that long of a telephoto reach. |
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Lukas Varossieau wrote:
[] Are you saying that the FZ20 should be compared to the Olympus Camedia C-8080? The Olympus is 8 megapixel, the Panasonic is 5. The Panasonic is a long zoom, the Olympus is a wide zoom. I am not saying that the Panasonic is a poor camera. All reviews put it at the top of the long zoom 5 megapixel selection, but the Olympus has much greater resolution and a superior lens. Some of us do not need that long of a telephoto reach. For many people 5MP is enough. What makes you say that the Olympus lens superior? They are lenses meeting two different requirements (5MP at 36 - 432mm zoom, 8MP at 28 - 140mm zoom). David |
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"David J Taylor" wrote in
: Lukas Varossieau wrote: [] Are you saying that the FZ20 should be compared to the Olympus Camedia C-8080? The Olympus is 8 megapixel, the Panasonic is 5. The Panasonic is a long zoom, the Olympus is a wide zoom. I am not saying that the Panasonic is a poor camera. All reviews put it at the top of the long zoom 5 megapixel selection, but the Olympus has much greater resolution and a superior lens. Some of us do not need that long of a telephoto reach. For many people 5MP is enough. 5MP is decent. I get tack-sharp 5 X 7's from my Coolpix 5700, but 8 X 10's leave something to be desired. Not bad, but not 300 PPI which is considered by most people to approximate "photo quality". I'm not talking about soft images..I'm referring to images that appear sharp on screen. My next camera will probably be 7 or 8 megapixels to give me that extra cropping flexibility, and to allow for the occasional *big* enlargement with optimum results. I'm torn between the Coolpix 8400 and the 8800. I haven't figured out which end is more important to me..wide or telephoto. -- Bill |
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