Kodak to stop making digital cameras

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...l?ref=business
or - http://tinyurl.com/7fc5nzs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ankruptcy.html
or - http://tinyurl.com/88kq392

Trying to sell patents...
Trying to license its brand...

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.

--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty."
Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer).

On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.


Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative products.

Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's
history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with.

I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took
me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years
after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes
and various darkroom tools.

For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to
buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the
film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs.
Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many
things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and
developed in Kodak chemicals.

The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The
Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so
superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever
bothered making cameras.

How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company.
Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged
photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive
in the market place, They might just survive.

BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups
when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam
than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff
that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in
to eyes.

On 2012-02-10 11:23 , Chloe wrote:
On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.


Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative
products.

I believe Kodak had a brilliant chance to lead, but they took several
missteps. The rest ...

Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's
history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with.

So it seemed. However, stepping back companies such as hp and several
others have been in printing, longer and larger than Kodak for a long
time (at least at the consumer/small office stuff.

I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took
me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years
after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes
and various darkroom tools.

My first exp. in a darkroom was with a friend who's parents helped him
get started.

For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to
buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the
film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs.
Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many
things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and
developed in Kodak chemicals.

The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The
Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so
superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever
bothered making cameras.

Their largest film markets were in selling family memories, not catering
to photographers. So the cameras had to be both cheap and simple. Good
enough for the market buying the film.

How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company.

Over reliance on the printer market did that.

Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged
photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive
in the market place, They might just survive.

Hopefully.

BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups
when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam
than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff
that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in
to eyes.

I've been a member of these and other photo NG's for well over 10 years.
I'm not a prolific x-poster, but I do x-post where I believe there
will be interest in it.

Chloe, I hope you participate in the current shoot-in, due this Sunday.
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/letter_u

Cheers,
Alan
--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty."
Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer).

On 11/02/2012 7:59 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2012-02-10 11:23 , Chloe wrote:
On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.


Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative
products.

I believe Kodak had a brilliant chance to lead, but they took several
missteps. The rest ...

Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's
history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with.

So it seemed. However, stepping back companies such as hp and several
others have been in printing, longer and larger than Kodak for a long
time (at least at the consumer/small office stuff.

I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took
me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years
after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes
and various darkroom tools.

My first exp. in a darkroom was with a friend who's parents helped him
get started.

For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to
buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the
film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs.
Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many
things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and
developed in Kodak chemicals.

The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The
Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so
superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever
bothered making cameras.

Their largest film markets were in selling family memories, not catering
to photographers. So the cameras had to be both cheap and simple. Good
enough for the market buying the film.

How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company.

Over reliance on the printer market did that.

Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged
photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive
in the market place, They might just survive.

Hopefully.

BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups
when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam
than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff
that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in
to eyes.

I've been a member of these and other photo NG's for well over 10 years.
I'm not a prolific x-poster, but I do x-post where I believe there will
be interest in it.

Chloe, I hope you participate in the current shoot-in, due this Sunday.
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/letter_u

Cheers,
Alan

Sorry Alan...
My photos would hardly be likely to raise an eyebrow compared to the
exquisite beauty of the masters of imagery who provide their
masterpieces to shootin. The embarrassment of being shown up as no more
than a happy snapper would be more than my ego could stand. My wrists
have quite enough scars for the time being.

Far more pleasure for me to discuss the finer points techniques and
printing than there would be seeing my pathetic effort at recording a
moment in time amongst the legendary artists who subscribe to this group.

[re-posted - I don't see the post on my newsreader]

On 2012-02-10 11:23 , Chloe wrote:
On 10/02/2012 9:05 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.


Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative
products.

I believe Kodak had a brilliant chance to lead, but they took several
missteps. The rest ...

Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's
history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with.

I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took
me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years
after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes
and various darkroom tools.

My first exp. in a darkroom was with a friend who's parents helped him
get started.

For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to
buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the
film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs.
Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many
things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and
developed in Kodak chemicals.

The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The
Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so
superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever
bothered making cameras.

Their largest film markets were in selling family memories, not catering
to photographers. So the cameras had to be both cheap and simple. Good
enough for the market buying the film.

How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company.

Over reliance on the printer market did that.

Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged
photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive
in the market place, They might just survive.

Hopefully.

BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups
when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam
than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff
that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in
to eyes.

I've been a member of these and other photo NG's for well over 10 years.
I'm not a prolific x-poster, but I do x-post where I believe there
will be interest in it.

Chloe, I hope you participate in the current shoot-in, due this Sunday.
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/letter_u

Cheers,
Alan

--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty."
Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer).

On 10/02/2012 00:05, Alan Browne wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...l?ref=business
or - http://tinyurl.com/7fc5nzs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ankruptcy.html
or - http://tinyurl.com/88kq392

Trying to sell patents...
Trying to license its brand...

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.

Nope, they sold their image sensor business to Platinum Equity back in
November

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190704577024464175394328.html


--
Illegitimi non carborundum

On 2012-02-11 12:16 , Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 10/02/2012 00:05, Alan Browne wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...l?ref=business

or - http://tinyurl.com/7fc5nzs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ankruptcy.html

or - http://tinyurl.com/88kq392

Trying to sell patents...
Trying to license its brand...

Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).

I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.

Nope, they sold their image sensor business to Platinum Equity back in
November

So I've been told...


--
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty."
Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer).