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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message ... "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... From the Mercury News: "BEIRUT, Lebanon - A Muslim protest over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad turned into a rampage that injured at least 30 people in Beirut on Sunday, as outrage over the drawings spread across continents and widened the rift between Islam and the West." http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13799947.htm Hmmm. Folks portrayed as violent fanatics protest by acting like violent fanatics. As Alanis Morrisette would say, "Isn't It Ironic?" I'm going to hate myself, but it seems that the main problem facing Islam is Islam. Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill. Someone writes a book they don't like? Kill the author. A cartoon? Kill the Danes. Did the Catholics protest when Maplethorp showed his work called "**** Christ?" Yes. Did they kill, or threaten to kill? No. Why is Islam so violent? My guess is that it's not Islam the religion that is so violent, but its the pare of the world that most of them come from that is so violent....They have been solving their problems for thousands of years by killing their enemies. Oh, and they have absolutely NO sense of humour. Have you seen those cartoons, quite funny really. Very clever. |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Jasen" wrote in message ... "Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... snipped other stuff "Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill." I suppose you think that the born again in the white house was living by the bible when he destroyed a country, killed thousands and celebrated "Mission Accomplished" afterwards? The reality 'we' live in, is built on hypocrisy and double standards. Never a greater truth has been spoken by any man. Islam and the US government plus a few other "mates" are virtually one and the same, although through different means and motivations. meant to say Islamic terrorists....not Islam itself. |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message
... The biggest problem with Islam is that.... The armchair experts conclude... This thread is a joke, how many of you people actually know any practising Muslims ? none I'd bet, go back to sleep lads. Hey, in my defense, the republicans currently in charge of the US missed out on the Enlightenment, too... ;-) -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
Was it necessary to know any practising Nazis to have an opinion about
them? I suppose opinions are like assholes, everybody got one. wrote in message ups.com... "This thread is a joke, how many of you people actually know any practising Muslims ? none I'd bet, go back to sleep lads." Was it necessary to know any practising Nazis to have an opinion about them? |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... The biggest problem with Islam is that.... The armchair experts conclude... This thread is a joke, how many of you people actually know any practising Muslims ? none I'd bet, go back to sleep lads. I work with several. All fully support the protests, and claim that sometimes you have to go to extremes. A few of the Muslims I've worked with also support the death sentence handed to Rushdie for his book. With that little formality out of the way, can you explain why the Muslims are so quick to resort to violence? Why did they pass a death sentence on Rushdie? Why do they protest a stupid cartoon in such a violent manner? Can you explain this? wrote in message ps.com... The biggest problem with Islam is that, unlike in the West, there was never any central authority, no 'pope'. With the rise of protestantism, the rebellion against the papacy and the assetion of the hegemony by Henry VIII, and the attacks on religion by David Hume, the church was no longer looked upon as absolute. When the black death wiped out half of Europe, the clergy not excepted, the ability of clergy to protect against evils became suspect. Atheism became a much more reasonable position... Matt Clara wrote: "Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message ... "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... From the Mercury News: "BEIRUT, Lebanon - A Muslim protest over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad turned into a rampage that injured at least 30 people in Beirut on Sunday, as outrage over the drawings spread across continents and widened the rift between Islam and the West." http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13799947.htm Hmmm. Folks portrayed as violent fanatics protest by acting like violent fanatics. As Alanis Morrisette would say, "Isn't It Ironic?" I'm going to hate myself, but it seems that the main problem facing Islam is Islam. Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill. Someone writes a book they don't like? Kill the author. A cartoon? Kill the Danes. Did the Catholics protest when Maplethorp showed his work called "**** Christ?" Yes. Did they kill, or threaten to kill? No. Why is Islam so violent? Off topic but WTF. Doug They missed out on the Enlightenment. -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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Yes.....And we can only hope that the apologists wake up in time.......
Your president is a loony, and I'm suppose to be frightened by a few angry Muslims...sheesh. "William Graham" wrote in message . .. "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message news:7ZxFf.55678$V.9457@fed1read04... Kinon O'Cann wrote: "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... From the Mercury News: "BEIRUT, Lebanon - A Muslim protest over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad turned into a rampage that injured at least 30 people in Beirut on Sunday, as outrage over the drawings spread across continents and widened the rift between Islam and the West." http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13799947.htm Hmmm. Folks portrayed as violent fanatics protest by acting like violent fanatics. As Alanis Morrisette would say, "Isn't It Ironic?" I'm going to hate myself, but it seems that the main problem facing Islam is Islam. Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill. Someone writes a book they don't like? Kill the author. A cartoon? Kill the Danes. Did the Catholics protest when Maplethorp showed his work called "**** Christ?" Yes. Did they kill, or threaten to kill? No. Why is Islam so violent? Because...despite all the politically correct BS commentary to the contrary... -Too much of Islam DOES encourage this sort of criminal behavior. -Their leaders DO remain all too silent about these things (with a few insignificant exceptions). -And let's face it...regardless of what MAY have been an idealized, originally less-violent belief system...has not reached a point where millions advocate murder over cartoons, and the extermination of the Jews in Israel. Just because one's motive for murder is religion...does not make it anything other than murder. These people shouldn't be treated as zealots...they are criminals...killers...murderers--and should be treated as such. If a guy is chanting in the street that he wants you dead, and is encouraging the real, active murder of another...they are accessories in those murders, and should be arrested, tried, and if convicted, imprisoned or worse. The world has been sitting back on their cow-towing arses so long that it takes cartoon-motivated murder and atomic weapons in the hands of Iran before they even begin to open an eye-lid. Sheesh. Yes.....And we can only hope that the apologists wake up in time....... |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"William Graham" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ps.com... The biggest problem with Islam is that, unlike in the West, there was never any central authority, no 'pope'. With the rise of protestantism, the rebellion against the papacy and the assetion of the hegemony by Henry VIII, and the attacks on religion by David Hume, the church was no longer looked upon as absolute. When the black death wiped out half of Europe, the clergy not excepted, the ability of clergy to protect against evils became suspect. Atheism became a much more reasonable position... And it still is....... I would love to see an atheist replace the so-called Christian we have in the white house now. Would be a huge step up. |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
They are immature - and like VERY dangerous children.There is no way of
reasoning with them as they are on a totally different wavelength.The old saying - "East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet" comes to mind. |
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OT Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... Yes.....And we can only hope that the apologists wake up in time....... Your president is a loony, and I'm suppose to be frightened by a few angry Muslims...sheesh. Yes, he is, but he is completely removed from this thread. The cartoon was Danish, the protests and riots are Muslim. And who frightens you is your business. I asked a question, that's all: why are Muslims so violent? Why kill over a cartoon? Why did they threaten to kill the author of a book simply because they didn't like the book? Why is their reaction to anything offensive to kill? |
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OT Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
The comment about having to know nazis to despite was great. No you
don't - you only have to know how they act. Killing innocent people because they hail from a certain country is the action of mindless fools. We have to wake up? I think it's the radical muslims that have to wake up - a little awareness would go a long way. Plus, I'm sure the majority of Islam suicide bombers are the dopes of the society. They indoctrinate them to so the dirty work. Riots over a cartoon - you have got to be kidding me. I think there's also the issue that the regions where the religion thrives has only been a civilized area for a short time. Before modern life came to them they were nomadic tribes I'm sure acting in individual barbarous ways. Look at the Catholic Church in the past like the Spanish Inquisition - burned at the stake for heresy or suspicion of practicing the black arts. We have already grown out of that phase. Cartoons? |
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