Insane new TSA rule for film inspection

Subject: Insane new TSA rule for film inspection
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Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2004 11:39 PM
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Well, here ya go, people -- our tax dollars at work.

Last week I flew to Chicago from Seattle to photograph the Chicago
Blues Festival. I do a lot of that, flying around the country to shoot
music events. When I shoot Jazz Fest in New Orleans I always take at
least 100 rolls of film, all fresh and factory sealed. I pack the film
in a clear plastic removable insert in one of those insulated lunch
things you find at K-Mart. I toss in a frozen pack of Blue Ice if I
have concerns about the weather being too hot. After the shoot, the
exposed film comes out of the plastic cannisters and goes into a clear
plastic grocery bag containing only the casettes.

BIG SNIP AND BIG EMPATHY

If the events are in or near major cities you could buy film there and/or how
about shooting 400 speed (and slower) film (could your lenses
apertures/technique handle the 1 stop drop in speed?) which might be less
sensitive to get by with no fogging after a couple of passes through
inspections lower dosed x-ray unit (forget about cargo's hand checked luggage
as they are supposed to have much more massive doses of x-rays there).

Do a test to see how much if any the x-ray passes affect your 800 spee film (or
400 speed film if you switch over to that). Why not _let_ a roll or five of
your 800 speed film go through the X-ray machine (place them in strategic
places in your bag and mark them "C" (Center of bag between clothes, gear,
etc.), "LTR" (Left Top Corner), "RTC" (Right Top Corner), LBR (Left bottom
corner) and "RBC" (Right Bottom Corner) and use these rolls as a
"coordinate/point map" (using the x-rayed rolls and their placements as
"points") for each x-ray machine at each airport you test. Shoot these rolls on
non-critical subjects in a body marked just for that purpose (subjects against
dark or black backgrounds would show fogging/loss of d-max best and/or simply
take a few shots of the back of your lens cap or with shuttersppeed and
aperture stopped down in manual mode in a dark room/closet. Then on one of your
regular/non-x-rayed rolls shoot one frame (either lens capped or with shutter
speed/aperture stopped down in a dark room/closet and go to a pro lab and ask
them to read (I forget if they should read for d-min or d-max to determine
fogging but the pro-lab/technician could tell you) each clear (for neg) film on
a densitometer (mark each film snip for what it is, x-rayed or not) and see if
there are any differences in their readings to tell if any fogging happened to
the x-rayed roll and how much fogging there was. They might also have
densitometers in photography schools (Brooks INstitute had them in Santa
Barbara back in the early '90's, don't know if they still do as digital has
spread like a VD in this era... Elaborate, yes, but, hey, I'm at least trying
to spare you from going over to "digimania" ;-).

Maybe there are even more way(s) around this Orwellian problem without having
to go digital or FedEx...

Anybody else?

Hope this helps. Sorry for your inconvenience :-).

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(EDGY01) wrote in message ...
Has there EVER been a case where it was confirmed that explosives were found
hidden with film??

Dan

Was there EVER a case where terrorists fly planes into the World Trade
Center BEFORE 9-11?

wrote:

Well, here ya go, people -- our tax dollars at work.

Last week I flew to Chicago from Seattle to photograph the Chicago
Blues Festival. I do a lot of that, flying around the country to shoot

SNIPPED

Rant over.


This is the latest variation on the theme, your pain amplified by
the volume of film and their individual passing through the process.

Writing here may be cathartic but writing to the TSA, your
congressman and senator might have greater long term effect...

Good luck,
Cheers,
Alan.



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Kibo informs me that ospam (Lewis Lang) stated that:

[...]
If the events are in or near major cities you could buy film there and/or how
about shooting 400 speed (and slower) film (could your lenses
apertures/technique handle the 1 stop drop in speed?) which might be less
sensitive to get by with no fogging after a couple of passes through
inspections lower dosed x-ray unit (forget about cargo's hand checked luggage
as they are supposed to have much more massive doses of x-rays there).

Do a test to see how much if any the x-ray passes affect your 800 spee film (or
400 speed film if you switch over to that). Why not _let_ a roll or five of
your 800 speed film go through the X-ray machine (place them in strategic
places in your bag and mark them "C" (Center of bag between clothes, gear,
[Huge, enormous snip]
to spare you from going over to "digimania" ;-).

Maybe there are even more way(s) around this Orwellian problem without having
to go digital or FedEx...

Jesus. I think I'll avoid the USA until all this insanity goes away.

Anybody else?

Wouldn't it be easier to either go digital, or just delay any air-travel
until monkey-boy's been voted out of office?

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(Sabineellen) wrote:

Funny how the US officials in this harrowing account sound like so
many of the Americans on this newsgroup - ignorant, aggressive and
innately hostil

TP your are you from? your style of humor feels australian or south african.


You can feel where you like (!), but I'm from Europe.

But I think you will find most people in the world have similar views
of Americans.

(EDGY01) wrote in message ...
Has there EVER been a case where it was confirmed that explosives were found
hidden with film??

Dan

Sounds like the perfect place to hide it, to me.

(Sabineellen) wrote:

http://www.bok.bonnier.se/foton/abfo...ena_lappin.htm

She was born a Russian Jew and moved to London in 1993. I wonder if her semitic
looks (arabs are semites too) and foreign accent made her look more suspicious.


That would mean that tens of millions of Americans look suspicious.

JJ,

Although I'm not a pro photog, you have my empathy. The last time I flew -- in
which I took my camera gear -- was pre-9/11.

At Newark Liberty International, I requested and received a hand inspection of
my camera bag with its approximately thousand dollars' worth of gear. At
Chicago O'Hare (where I caught a connecting flight to KCI), the screener gave
me a hard time and insisted I pass it through the X-ray machine. I also had
hassles returning home.

"Sheesh," I thought.

It's because of the hassles that people endure in the name of "safety" (what a
joke!) that companies have sprung up to ship your things ahead, such as when
you go on vacation, and thus avoid the screening nonsense.

I am assuming that, in your "experience," you were calm, rational and
reasonable in dealing with those clowns. Did you ask to speak to a stupid --
er, supervisor?

I do agree with one respondent about writing the TSA, your local Congressman,
DHS director Tom Ridge, and maybe even President Bush. Taken individually, your
letter may not have much of an impact, but a collection of letters detailing
similar experiences by others may cause them to sit up and take notice.

Dieter Zakas
Security Screen, NJ

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Kibo informs me that ospam (Lewis Lang) stated that:

[...]
If the events are in or near major cities you could buy film there and/or
how
about shooting 400 speed (and slower) film (could your lenses
apertures/technique handle the 1 stop drop in speed?) which might be less
sensitive to get by with no fogging after a couple of passes through
inspections lower dosed x-ray unit (forget about cargo's hand checked
luggage
as they are supposed to have much more massive doses of x-rays there).

Do a test to see how much if any the x-ray passes affect your 800 spee
film (or
400 speed film if you switch over to that). Why not _let_ a roll or five
of
your 800 speed film go through the X-ray machine (place them in strategic
places in your bag and mark them "C" (Center of bag between clothes,
gear,
[Huge, enormous snip]
to spare you from going over to "digimania" ;-).

Maybe there are even more way(s) around this Orwellian problem without
having
to go digital or FedEx...

Jesus. I think I'll avoid the USA until all this insanity goes away.


Not a bad idea, I was treated like **** at Miami airport, along with
all the other high security risks (foreign passengers).

wrote in message . ..
Well, here ya go, people -- our tax dollars at work.

Last week I flew to Chicago from Seattle to photograph the Chicago
Blues Festival. I do a lot of that, flying around the country to shoot
music events. When I shoot Jazz Fest in New Orleans I always take at
least 100 rolls of film, all fresh and factory sealed. I pack the film
in a clear plastic removable insert in one of those insulated lunch
things you find at K-Mart. I toss in a frozen pack of Blue Ice if I
have concerns about the weather being too hot. After the shoot, the
exposed film comes out of the plastic cannisters and goes into a clear
plastic grocery bag containing only the casettes. This has been my
standard M.O. for years, and especially after 9-11, because I want to
make it as easy as possible for the security people when I ask for my
customary hand inspection. The only film I carry these days that's not
already in clear plastic cannisters is p3200 Tmax.

So there I am at the airport with my big clear plastic container,
handing it over and asking for hand inspection. Anybody with a brain
can tell it's film. Anybody with a brain can tell I'm a professional
photographer. (Ten grand worth of lenses and bodies might lend
credence.)

Anybody but the TSA.

Apparently, a new TSA regulation went into effect in April that
requires the opening, inspecting and swabbing of EVERY SINGLE ROLL OF
FILM! That's what they told me at Sea-Tac a week ago, and that's what
they told me at Chicago-Midway today. Last week the TSA person spent
20 minutes cracking open every single factory-sealed roll of film in
my insul-pack. That included two boxes of Fuji 800 20-roll pro-packs.
She took every roll out of its cannister, even though you could see
right through the clear plastic. She peeled open every individually
boxed roll of p3200, Tri-X, Sensia and Ektachrome. Then she handed
them all back to me.

Gee, are you really sure I'm not a terrorist? Maybe you should check
and see if I've got any Kodachrome hidden in my shoe!

Before I left Chicago, I tried to call ASMP to find out what they knew
about this new reg. The phone number posted on their website for the
main office in Philly in no good. So I dialed up the Chicago office
number listed on the website. Surprise. It doesn't work, either, and
there's no listing for ASMP in Directory Assistance.

I figured the best I could do on the way out of Midway was to hope the
TSA people there had a little more sense, and a lot less time to fool
around. What was I thinking?

I asked for the hand inspection, gave them the clear container with
all the film, sent everything else through X-ray and went to wait for
my film. This time it was worse than Sea-Tac.

How could it be worse, you ask? Heh heh heh. Well, ya see, the TSA guy
almost had a meltdown when he realized he was going to have to inspect
about 60 rolls of film (20 of which were cassettes in the clear
plastic baggie). So, after doing about 10 rolls, he called in his
supervisor to assist. They took all my film, used and unused, and
dumped it into one of those big gray trays. Then they opened and
swabbed every cannister, every box AND every cassette of exposed film!

"Midway" through this process, the super turns to me and says, "Can I
see your ID?" Sure, and I hand him my passport. "Got something with
your current address on it?" Er, yeah. I hand him my drivers license.
"Is this current?" I wanted to respond, "Well, DUH! You asked me for
something current didn't you?" But that would have gotten me the Abu
Ghraib treatment. Then he asked for my boarding pass. He took all this
stuff and disappeared for a few minutes. He came back and resumed
checking more film, while I was no doubt having my entire credit
history pulled by the CAPPS computers. (Er, sorry about that student
loan thing in the '80s, but they were late getting to the bankruptcy
court.)

The super also asks, "Are you taking any medication?" I look at him
like he's nuts. What's that got to do with my film? Is Barry Bonds
taking any medication? Does he have anything to do with my film? How
about Sammy Sosa? "No," I answer, and he goes back to checking film.

This insanity goes on for nearly half an hour. I'm standing there
patiently, co-operatively, whatever -- reading my Sun-Times and
periodically thinking how lucky I was to miss all the morning traffic
jams. I had time to burn, and it's a good thing I did, too, cuz these
guys had nothing but matches.

Now, it's not like they were nasty or anything. They were just doing
the job some dumb**** handed down from a bureacratic bunker in D.C..
But can we please buy a clue here? I fit the profile of a professional
photographer. If I had ulterior motives, would I really ask these guys
to hand check my film, especially if I knew they were going to open
every cannister and swab every cassette? Hell no. I'd do what I did
with my vitamins, just to prove a point. I put them in a clear Fuji
cannister, stuffed the cannister in my pocket, and waltzed right
through the X-ray Arch. Of course they didn't stop me. And if I'd had
C-4 in the cannister and a fuse in my shoe and a pack of matches in my
camera bag -- OOPS! I *did* have a pack of matches in my camera bag.
Oh well.

When they finally did hand me back all my film, my papers and the
torn-open film boxes, the super sez, "Um, there must have been some
contamination on the tray." SCUZE ME? YOU GUYS dumped the film into
the tray!!! That's why I just spent half an hour standing here???

I have no idea what that chemical trace agent is on those swab pads. I
don't know if it will affect my film in any way. But I do know it's
going to cost me time and money to find out. And I do know that, if
this ridiculous exercise is going to be standard procedure, I'm going
to be shipping my film FedEx from now on. That's going to cost me,
too. And for what? Increased security? Yeah, right.

I don't know what the TSA is thinking, or if it's thinking at all. Far
as I can tell, this "new rule" hasn't been posted to their web site.
All I could find was this:

http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/e...orial_1035.xml
If you plan to request a hand inspection of your film, you
should consider carrying your film in clear canisters, or
taking the film out of solid colored canisters and putting
it into clear plastic bags, to expedite the screening process.

Sigh....

I've been having the usual ongoing debate with my digitally enhanced
pals, who keep trying to bring me over to the Dark Side. But in the
final analysis, it may be the TSA guys in the white shirts who finally
convince me it's time to dump the strips and go for the chips.

Rant over.

JJ

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Aren't politics wonderful.
But this is really no different than any other government bureaucracy.
It's what we get for giving into Daschle's federalization of the program.

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