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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Alan Browne writes William Graham wrote: Unless you've got a flash with a guide number of 250 thousand miles........ That would require an f/1 lens for ISO 100. If the lens is f/4 then a GN of 1,000,000 miles would be required... Don't forget the flash would have to fire about 2.69s before the shutter is fully open. And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) -- Lassi |
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Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) More interesting if a bit late to open ... get a doughnut image. The diameter of the moon is ca. 3.48E6 meters. For the edges you would need 1/2 of that. C is about 3E8 m/s, giving an image return of about 5.8ms. so a shutter speed up to 1/172 of a second would work if rear curtain began falling 1/172 of a second after leading edge of light returned. (Call it 1/160 then). In any case, much easier to expose as 'bulb'. Fire flash, wait 2 seconds, wait for moon to flare up with the light, let go. Cheers, Alan. -- -- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource: -- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.-- |
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Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) More interesting if a bit late to open ... get a doughnut image. The diameter of the moon is ca. 3.48E6 meters. For the edges you would need 1/2 of that. C is about 3E8 m/s, giving an image return of about 5.8ms. so a shutter speed up to 1/172 of a second would work if rear curtain began falling 1/172 of a second after leading edge of light returned. (Call it 1/160 then). In any case, much easier to expose as 'bulb'. Fire flash, wait 2 seconds, wait for moon to flare up with the light, let go. Cheers, Alan. -- -- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource: -- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.-- |
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Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) More interesting if a bit late to open ... get a doughnut image. The diameter of the moon is ca. 3.48E6 meters. For the edges you would need 1/2 of that. C is about 3E8 m/s, giving an image return of about 5.8ms. so a shutter speed up to 1/172 of a second would work if rear curtain began falling 1/172 of a second after leading edge of light returned. (Call it 1/160 then). In any case, much easier to expose as 'bulb'. Fire flash, wait 2 seconds, wait for moon to flare up with the light, let go. Cheers, Alan. -- -- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource: -- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.-- |
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In article , Lassi Hippeläinen
writes Prometheus wrote: In article , Alan Browne writes William Graham wrote: Unless you've got a flash with a guide number of 250 thousand miles........ That would require an f/1 lens for ISO 100. If the lens is f/4 then a GN of 1,000,000 miles would be required... Don't forget the flash would have to fire about 2.69s before the shutter is fully open. And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) Now that leads to an interesting idea, use a shorter shutter time with the flash to shutter delay adjusted so that you do not capture the centre. I wonder if there are any nuclear bomb pumped lasers left over from the star wars project. -- Ian G8ILZ |
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In article , Lassi Hippeläinen
writes Prometheus wrote: In article , Alan Browne writes William Graham wrote: Unless you've got a flash with a guide number of 250 thousand miles........ That would require an f/1 lens for ISO 100. If the lens is f/4 then a GN of 1,000,000 miles would be required... Don't forget the flash would have to fire about 2.69s before the shutter is fully open. And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) Now that leads to an interesting idea, use a shorter shutter time with the flash to shutter delay adjusted so that you do not capture the centre. I wonder if there are any nuclear bomb pumped lasers left over from the star wars project. -- Ian G8ILZ |
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Alan Browne wrote:
Lassi Hippeläinen wrote: And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) More interesting if a bit late to open ... get a doughnut image. The diameter of the moon is ca. 3.48E6 meters. For the edges you would need 1/2 of that. C is about 3E8 m/s, giving an image return of about 5.8ms. so a shutter speed up to 1/172 of a second would work if rear curtain began falling 1/172 of a second after leading edge of light returned. (Call it 1/160 then). But this is radar business. The light has to travel there and back again, so the total delay is twice the difference in distance, or 1/86. 1/60 leaves some room for inaccuracies. -- Lassi |
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Alan Browne wrote:
Lassi Hippeläinen wrote: And don't use times shorter than 1/60, or you won't capture the light returning from the edges. (That might look interesting, though...) More interesting if a bit late to open ... get a doughnut image. The diameter of the moon is ca. 3.48E6 meters. For the edges you would need 1/2 of that. C is about 3E8 m/s, giving an image return of about 5.8ms. so a shutter speed up to 1/172 of a second would work if rear curtain began falling 1/172 of a second after leading edge of light returned. (Call it 1/160 then). But this is radar business. The light has to travel there and back again, so the total delay is twice the difference in distance, or 1/86. 1/60 leaves some room for inaccuracies. -- Lassi |
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That would require an f/1 lens for ISO 100. If the lens is f/4 then a GN
of 1,000,000 miles would be required... I'll check the rating on my old 285... Uhh... nope. |
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That would require an f/1 lens for ISO 100. If the lens is f/4 then a GN
of 1,000,000 miles would be required... I'll check the rating on my old 285... Uhh... nope. |
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