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Should I buy a 6D or 5D4?
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wrote: And you're right about the Ecktachrome "look": sure, in theory it should be able to be duplicated, but that's not necessarily a trvial task. Doubly so for the specialty UW Ecktachrome that Kodak made for a few years, where one had to add a filter to your strobe. it doesn't matter how trivial it is, only that it's possible, which it is. And sunbursts are still not as good/easy with digital vs film, as the (non)linearity aspects of the two are *quite* different...and not something all that recoverable in post. since digital has a wider dynamic range than film, there's less to recover, if anything. |
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Should I buy a 6D or 5D4?
On 5/13/2017 8:24 AM, -hh wrote:
PeterN wrote: In my diving days, I used a Nikkormat in a housing with a 20mm lens, and a housed strobe. IIRC, the Nikonos V was circa 1977 (40th anniversary this year?), so stuff earlier than that is really quite ... vintage! I guess that was FF, and I had a lot of fun. For all practical purposes there is a very little chance that I will get wet again. I do miss that blue Ecktachrome look. Yes, 35mm film would've considered FF. Coincidentally, a guy on the boat just yesterday had an old Nikonos V with the Nikkor 15mm and the (Replacemeant for the SB-103) SB-105 strobe...he thinks he got a nice shot of a fat blacktip...mine came out a bit too dark/blue, as the modern digital stuff isn't as condusive to default settings (particularly focus), which can/does result in shutter AF lag. And you're right about the Ecktachrome "look": sure, in theory it should be able to be duplicated, but that's not necessarily a trvial task. Doubly so for the specialty UW Ecktachrome that Kodak made for a few years, where one had to add a filter to your strobe. And sunbursts are still not as good/easy with digital vs film, as the (non)linearity aspects of the two are *quite* different...and not something all that recoverable in post. -hh I don't think I ever got the quintessential UW sunburst. -- PeterN |
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Should I buy a 6D or 5D4?
Nospam wrote:
, -hh wrote: And you're right about the Ecktachrome "look": sure, in theory it should be able to be duplicated, but that's not necessarily a trvial task. Doubly so for the specialty UW Ecktachrome that Kodak made for a few years, where one had to add a filter to your strobe. it doesn't matter how trivial it is, only that it's possible, which it is. Try reading again: I said it was *not* trivial. Which also means that a trade-off decision is merited, such as to decide to forego digital with extensive post-processing just to try to replicate what was very easy with film. And sunbursts are still not as good/easy with digital vs film, as the (non)linearity aspects of the two are *quite* different...and not something all that recoverable in post. since digital has a wider dynamic range than film, there's less to recover, if anything. Nope. "Wider than film" doesn't cut it, as the scene still has more DR than what even today's best digital can address, which is why the non-linearity of film plays a factor in affording more forgiveness. This overexposing beyond DR on digital is substantially uglier than on film, and it's been a known issue for years within the UW Pro's. -hh |
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