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Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater



 
 
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Old January 24th 07, 01:02 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Rich
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater

And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?

These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
cell phone cams.

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Old January 24th 07, 01:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater



On Jan 24, 12:02 pm, "Rich" wrote:
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?


You can still get a great P&S that takes quality photos, u just have to
make sure its a FujiFilm FinePix brand on it...F30 for instance.

Anyway even the crappo brands take photos that will suit 99% of the
population, not ever one wants or needs studio quality, or wants a big
huge heavy SLR to carry around.

If your really concerned the new Sigma DP1 P&S would suit you.

Cheers

K202


These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
cell phone cams.


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Old January 24th 07, 02:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
JohnR66
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater

"Rich" wrote in message
oups.com...
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?

These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
cell phone cams.

I remember wondering years ago, how far will digital cameras go. Now it
seems, in the point and shoot markets at least, they've gone right over the
hill. There are very few desirable models left. The feature set has
improved, but in their greedy interest of selling more cameras, the
manufacturers started packing pixels on yet smaller sensors to please the
unaware camera buying crowd.

Ha Ha! You thought a 1/2.5" sensor was small? Canon just announced 1/3", 6mp
gems!

I wonder what will happen to the dSLR market.

John


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Old January 24th 07, 07:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David J Taylor
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater

Rich wrote:
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look
like an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the
image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?

These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up
from cell phone cams.


I'm sure you can still get the Nikon 8400 and 8700 should you wish - but
you're not actually interested are you? Just another troll, eh?


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Old January 24th 07, 12:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
SimonLW
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater


"JohnR66" wrote in message
...
"Rich" wrote in message
oups.com...
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?

These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
cell phone cams.

I remember wondering years ago, how far will digital cameras go. Now it
seems, in the point and shoot markets at least, they've gone right over
the hill. There are very few desirable models left. The feature set has
improved, but in their greedy interest of selling more cameras, the
manufacturers started packing pixels on yet smaller sensors to please the
unaware camera buying crowd.

Ha Ha! You thought a 1/2.5" sensor was small? Canon just announced 1/3",
6mp gems!


Actually they are 5mp, but still the most densely packed CCDs in a digicam.

I wonder what will happen to the dSLR market.

John




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Old January 24th 07, 12:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Roy G
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater


"Rich" wrote in message
oups.com...
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.

Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?

These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
cell phone cams.


Hi.

You do not have to go out and buy the highest Mp rated Camera available.

If you know better than the Sheep, pick one which is still reasonable, 4 or
5 Mp.

The Sheep don't, and never have known anything, about photography or
cameras, so the manufacturers take advantage of that.

Roy G


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Old January 24th 07, 05:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Rich
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater



On Jan 23, 9:59 pm, "
wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:02 pm, "Rich" wrote:

And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.


Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?You can still get a great P&S that takes quality photos, u just have to

make sure its a FujiFilm FinePix brand on it...F30 for instance.

Anyway even the crappo brands take photos that will suit 99% of the
population, not ever one wants or needs studio quality, or wants a big
huge heavy SLR to carry around.

If your really concerned the new Sigma DP1 P&S would suit you.

Cheers

K202


If they ever release it. Rumours are it will cost as much as a Nikon
D80.

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Old January 24th 07, 05:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Rich
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater



On Jan 24, 3:59 am, "David J Taylor"
wrote:
Rich wrote:
And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look
like an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the
image.


Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?


These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up
from cell phone cams.I'm sure you can still get the Nikon 8400 and 8700 should you wish - but

you're not actually interested are you? Just another troll, eh?


In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
P&S cameras.
If you don't like the message, put your head back in the sand.

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Old January 24th 07, 09:00 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David J Taylor
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater

Rich wrote:
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In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
P&S cameras.


That's great - I haven't actually used that model, but I agree that the
2/3-inch, 5MP cameras were, perhaps, the best compromise for the format

David


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Old January 24th 07, 10:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:00:02 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:

In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
P&S cameras.


That's great - I haven't actually used that model, but I agree that the
2/3-inch, 5MP cameras were, perhaps, the best compromise for the format


Just in case you were referring to the C-8080, it has considerably
more pixels than 5mp. 60% more in fact, and it had a lens that
justified its 8mp sensor. All of those that tested it liked it a
great deal, except for one illuminous, curmudgeonly reviewer.

 




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