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Old May 21st 14, 04:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 21st 14, 05:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 21 May 2014 00:01:20 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:46:16 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


I'd go with #2, but it's your photo.

Why not three framed versions, each in a different room?


Open plan house. Effectively only the one suitable room. :-)
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Eric Stevens
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Old May 21st 14, 05:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2014-05-21 03:46:16 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


OK you asked for it:

#1 is OK except for the grass in the foreground. To me it has a chopped
off and careless crop feel to it.
#2 is too heavy on the right and has the same foreground issues as #1.
#3 has in my opinion the best balance of crop and preservation of
foreground, and does not have the over heavy right side.
#3 gets my vote as the one to go with.

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Old May 21st 14, 05:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 21 May 2014 00:14:14 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:11:02 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2014 00:01:20 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:46:16 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza

I'd go with #2, but it's your photo.

Why not three framed versions, each in a different room?


Open plan house. Effectively only the one suitable room. :-)


The cost is in the frame and the matting, not the print. Print all
three and change what's in the frame once a month.


The glass is the most expensive item.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 21st 14, 05:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2014-05-21 04:23:15 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-05-21 03:46:16 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


OK you asked for it:

#1 is OK except for the grass in the foreground. To me it has a chopped
off and careless crop feel to it.
#2 is too heavy on the right and has the same foreground issues as #1.
#3 has in my opinion the best balance of crop and preservation of
foreground, and does not have the over heavy right side.
#3 gets my vote as the one to go with.


BTW: That 18-70mm Nikkor is a very good and sharp lens considering it
was a kit lens and not particularly expensive. I still use mine from
time-to-time on my D300S. It is sharper than my 18-200mm VRII so if
called for....


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Savageduck

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Old May 21st 14, 07:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 21/05/2014 04:46, Eric Stevens wrote:
Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west
coast bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at
a composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and
suitable for framing and hanging on a wall.

[]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


#2 for me.

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David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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Old May 21st 14, 10:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Neil Ellwood[_8_]
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On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:46:16 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west coast
bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at a
composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and suitable
for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find a
JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


You are the photographer. It is your seeing that you want to reproduce.
Print it how YOU like it. To repeat - it is YOUR picture so be true to
your own vision.



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Neil
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Remove ‘l’ to get address.
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Old May 21st 14, 10:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 21 May 2014 04:09:46 -0500, Neil Ellwood
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:46:16 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote:

Some years ago I used my trusty D70 to take a photograph of a west coast
bay in rough conditions. Recently I've been trying to arrive at a
composition suitable for printing on matte paper in A2 size and suitable
for framing and hanging on a wall.

My present problem is that every member of my family has a different
idea of the best composition and in an attempt to bring peace I have
made three different versions. That hasn't really helped as I now have
three different sets of strong opinions.

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find a
JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


You are the photographer. It is your seeing that you want to reproduce.
Print it how YOU like it. To repeat - it is YOUR picture so be true to
your own vision.


--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 21st 14, 11:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
-hh
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Eric Stevens wrote:

I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing
prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of
anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find
a JPG of each version in:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza


In looking through the three images, one thing I noticed is that #3 was the
"least" crop of the three. I don't know if its the full frame original or not.

In any case, I didn't really care too much for #1 or #2 ...

#1 seems to emphasis the foreground, rather than the bay.

#2 is bringing the eye into the hills/cliffs beyond the bay, which hints at your intent

#3 has even more foreground, which seems even more distracting.

What I'd suggest is ... more/different crops. Might help too with the family, as
no one gets "their way" from the first round.

Here's a direction that I'd suggest considering - - this is quick & dirty; I might
want to have kept a bit more sky to the top:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4ib67605r...cker3-crop.jpg

In any case, I hope it inspires some expression. My thought process was that
with the piece's title being "Bay", the context of the open water on the left is
a necessary element. Similarly, I believe that you have more interest in the
hills/cliffs than in the grasses, so this was adjusted accordingly (max/min).

Hope this helps,

-hh
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Old May 21st 14, 11:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:17:47 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:



I know that computer monitors are not ideal for viewing and proofing


prints of this kind but I am interested in gathering the opinions of


anyone in this newsgroup who is bold enough to state one. You can find


a JPG of each version in:




https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok28ebd3p...M2OQuylz7CgFza




In looking through the three images, one thing I noticed is that #3 was the

"least" crop of the three. I don't know if its the full frame original or not.



In any case, I didn't really care too much for #1 or #2 ...



#1 seems to emphasis the foreground, rather than the bay.



#2 is bringing the eye into the hills/cliffs beyond the bay, which hints at your intent



#3 has even more foreground, which seems even more distracting.



What I'd suggest is ... more/different crops. Might help too with the family, as

no one gets "their way" from the first round.



Here's a direction that I'd suggest considering - - this is quick & dirty; I might

want to have kept a bit more sky to the top:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4ib67605r...cker3-crop.jpg


Admin ... I've not used dropbox much; this might be the public link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/hc36x7ou7...IG5X_nxh082rQa





In any case, I hope it inspires some expression. My thought process was that

with the piece's title being "Bay", the context of the open water on the left is

a necessary element. Similarly, I believe that you have more interest in the

hills/cliffs than in the grasses, so this was adjusted accordingly (max/min).



Hope this helps,



-hh


-hh
 




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