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Pentax 6X7
"croweflight" wrote in message
news:hpscc.168495$cx5.167842@fed1read04... I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format. The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. Not sure what other brands you are comparing. For one thing, the lenses have no shutters (like a 35mm SLR with a focal plane shutter). It is a good and reliable camera which was designed to be cost effective. Quality is similar to other Pentax cameras and lenses. |
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Pentax 6X7
On 2004-04-06 03:10:16 -0400, "Mark A" said:
"croweflight" wrote in message news:hpscc.168495$cx5.167842@fed1read04... I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format. The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. Not sure what other brands you are comparing. For one thing, the lenses have no shutters (like a 35mm SLR with a focal plane shutter). It is a good and reliable camera which was designed to be cost effective. Quality is similar to other Pentax cameras and lenses. I have had 6x7 equipment since 1979. Some of my lenses date back to then and the camea body to 1985. The cost break is mostly due to the focal plane shutter, making the lenses shutter-free. -- Michael Weinstein | Never underestimate the power of Nashua, NH | stupid people in large groups. |
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Pentax 6X7
Look for one with mirror lockup feature even if you will never use it. Ones
without that feature are oldest and parts less availble.. "Robert Feinman" wrote in message ... In article hpscc.168495$cx5.167842@fed1read04, says... I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format. The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. The camera (in one version or another) has been around for over 30 years so there are lots of them around. Other brands either cost more or changed models frequently thus making the pool appear smaller. Works fine if you don't get one that's too old. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs http://robertdfeinman.com mail: |
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Pentax 6X7
Thank you all who answered my question about the Pentax 6X7. My eBay
search for MF cameras did yield more hits than I cared to study. So I refined it to include 6X7. This is where I noticed that the Pentax 6X7 showed up in larger numbers and did not have the shockingly high asking prices of other MF cameras including the lenses for it. I have noticed that used Rollei 6008s are moving for a larger discount over the new price than other brands. I wonder if that has anything to do with the lack of digital back for it. A topic for another discussion. |
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Pentax 6X7
On 2004-04-06 09:58:23 -0400, "Art" said:
Look for one with mirror lockup feature even if you will never use it. Ones without that feature are oldest and parts less availble.. "Robert Feinman" wrote in message ... In article hpscc.168495$cx5.167842@fed1read04, says... I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format. The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. The camera (in one version or another) has been around for over 30 years so there are lots of them around. Other brands either cost more or changed models frequently thus making the pool appear smaller. Works fine if you don't get one that's too old. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs http://robertdfeinman.com mail: You must have the mirror lockup for long exposures on a tripod. And with the Pentax 6x7 "long" exposures are not as long as you might think. Only the very oldest 6x7's did NOT have the mirror lockup. Anything called Pentax 67II (the newest) or Pentax 67 (the next older model) will have mirror lockup. An original Pentax 6x7 may not - you have to check. But I bought my first one in 1979 and that came with mirror lockup. -- Michael Weinstein | Never underestimate the power of Nashua, NH | stupid people in large groups. |
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Pentax 6X7
I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format.
The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. I doubt, though there's no way to know for sure, that there's any greater move to get out of Pentax 67s than there is to get out of medium format film cameras in general. In other words, some percentage of people using medium format are switching to digital and Pentax's percentage is probably about the same as the others, perhaps even less since the portrait and wedding pros who are ditching their film cameras and switching to digital in droves didn't generally use Pentax 67s for those types of work. The apparently large numbers of Pentax 67s on e bay is probably due more to the large number of them that are out there than anything else. The Pentax 6x7/67 was introduced around 1970 or thereabouts and didn't come off the market until about four or five years ago when the 67II replaced it (and the 67II is still the same camera in many ways). Over the years there hasn't been a whole lot of competition for Pentax in the 6x7 field camera market. Most of the competition for Pentax has come from other medium format film sizes (i.e. 645 and 6x6). But once someone decided they wanted a 6x7 SLR that was reasonably portable and also decided they could live without interchangeable backs and leaf shutters, they didn't have a whole lot of choices. I've used the Pentax 67 for about ten years or so. I don't do too much medium format any more, I mostly use large format and digital, but I've always been pleased with the results produced with it. The lenses are top notch, the camera is very simple to operate letting you concentrate on the photograph rather than the "features," and for an amateur who has no clients to pick up equipment costs the affordability of the lenses and accessories has been important to me. There hasn't been any real downside to it for me. The most common complaints are the slow flash synch speed and the lack of interchangeable backs but I don't use flash and don't need interchangeable backs. If you're in the same boat I'd highly recommend the Pentax 67 system. "Michael Weinstein" wrote in message news:2004040607334116807%drmike99NOSPAM@ixnetcomco m... On 2004-04-06 03:10:16 -0400, "Mark A" said: "croweflight" wrote in message news:hpscc.168495$cx5.167842@fed1read04... I was just over on eBay looking at what is for sale in the 6X7 format. The Pentax 6X7 SLRs and accessories that are for sale out number all others combined. And the prices look cheep compared to some other brands. I am wondering whats up with that. Is there a move on to get out of that system? And if so; Is there a reason for it? Thanks. Not sure what other brands you are comparing. For one thing, the lenses have no shutters (like a 35mm SLR with a focal plane shutter). It is a good and reliable camera which was designed to be cost effective. Quality is similar to other Pentax cameras and lenses. I have had 6x7 equipment since 1979. Some of my lenses date back to then and the camea body to 1985. The cost break is mostly due to the focal plane shutter, making the lenses shutter-free. -- Michael Weinstein | Never underestimate the power of Nashua, NH | stupid people in large groups. |
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Pentax 6X7
some years ago Pop Photo's Keppler did an article comparing 35mm and MF cameras. Their big surprise was that the pentax 6x7cm kit cost less than not just the other Med Fmt kits (hassy, rolleiflex..) but even less than the "pro" Nikon F5 and Canon EOS kits with similar fixed lenses (e.g., wide angle, normal, portrait telephoto etc.) [granting the 35mm lenses were faster in pro versions]. fyi bobm -- ************************************************** ********************* * Robert Monaghan POB 752182 Southern Methodist Univ. Dallas Tx 75275 * ********************Standard Disclaimers Apply************************* |
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Pentax 6X7
croweflight wrote:
Thank you all who answered my question about the Pentax 6X7. My eBay search for MF cameras did yield more hits than I cared to study. So I refined it to include 6X7. This is where I noticed that the Pentax 6X7 showed up in larger numbers and did not have the shockingly high asking prices of other MF cameras including the lenses for it. I have noticed that used Rollei 6008s are moving for a larger discount over the new price than other brands. I wonder if that has anything to do with the lack of digital back for it. A topic for another discussion. There have been, and currently are a few, digital backs for the Rollei 6000 system. One thing to consider in North America is rental gear, a situation in which Hasselblad gear is substantially more numerous. Another factor is that Rollei USA marketing sucks, so few people know about this gear. Absolutely not a bad choice at all, though make sure the battery and charger are included. I have found the 6008i with handle to be very ergonomic, and an easy to use camera system. Another choice is the 6003, which is similar. The Mamiya RB/RZ 67 series also are more readily found in rental places. The RB67 is also quite cheap on the used market, so perhaps another choice. The bad thing about these cameras is that they are very large and heavy, and much better used on a tripod. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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Pentax 6X7
Thanks for the information on the digital back for the Rollei. I had
read a good review of the rollei system and was doing some online research. I formed my supposition that there was not a digital back for the rollei based on searching B&H's web site. And since you brought rentals up, our local camera rentals include, Canon, Mamiya, Hasselblad, Nikon, and some special use Fuji. I think that there was some LF gear available also. So maybe that is the way to go. Although a decent setup will set me back $70 to $100 per day. Gordon Moat wrote: There have been, and currently are a few, digital backs for the Rollei 6000 system. One thing to consider in North America is rental gear, a situation in which Hasselblad gear is substantially more numerous. The Mamiya RB/RZ 67 series also are more readily found in rental places. The RB67 is also quite cheap on the used market, so perhaps another choice. The bad thing about these cameras is that they are very large and heavy, and much better used on a tripod. |
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