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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
Davoud:
For what "nefarious purposes" do you think people might use your EXIF? A. Beck: What if, say, I posted to LinkedIn, my photo, taken from my living room. Would I really want the entire world to know exactly where I live? Mr. Beck, you really, /really/ need to get off the Internet. It's got you frightened to death. Davoud -- 9472,-76.6592944,715m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:56:22 +0000 (UTC)
Lewis wrote: Okay, so one time? In band camp? A. Beck. was all, like: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:05:10 -0400, Davoud wrote: For what "nefarious purposes" do you think people might use your EXIF? What if, say, I posted to LinkedIn, my photo, taken from my living room. Would I really want the entire world to know exactly where I live? What is your point? Yes, your digital cameras record exif data. Yes, if you share that data with others they can see the efix data. if this bothers you, DON'T share that data. You've been told many many methods to strip the efix data. Pick one. This has been another fun game of Why don't you - Yes, but... -- Wildman GNU/Linux user #557453 The cow died so I don't need your bull! |
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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:56:22 +0000, Lewis wrote:
You've been told many many methods to strip the efix data. Pick one. The question was never *how* to strip EXIF data (that's easy). I habitually stripped EXIF data well before I ever posted the question. How to remove exif data: ================================================== == $ sudo apt-get install imagemagick $ convert -strip pic.jpg pic_sansexif.jpg $ for i in *.{jpg,JPG}; do echo "Cleaning $i EXIF"; convert -strop $i $i; done ================================================== == $ sudo apt-get install exiftool libimage-exiftool-perl $ exiftool -all= foo.jpg $ for i in *.{jpg,JPG}; do echo "Cleaning $i EXIF"; exiftool -all= "$i"; done ================================================== == $ sudo apt-get install jhead $ jhead -purejpg *.jpg $ for i in *.{jpg,JPG}; do echo "Cleaning $i EXIF"; jhead -purejpg $i; done ================================================== == I don't know how to remove EXIF with exiftran (do you?). $ sudo apt-get install exiftran ================================================== == (I'm not sure the sytax to use the "rm" option to remove EXIF data) $ sudo apt-get install exiv2 $ exiv2 -rm pic.jpg pic.jpg ??? ================================================== == |
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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
On 2014.10.28, 19:42 , Davoud wrote:
to ISIS? CIA? NSA? FBI? All three agencies are nearby, and they all know where I live. So? While 99.9999% of the information collected is useless, there is something in there useful to someone regarding someone else. That 0.00001 % is the Paydirt. It is so cheap to collect the data and so cheap to keep the data that it is 'profitable' in the long term. (Profitable may mean money wise, tactically, politically ...) And it's only getting easier and cheaper. -- Among Broad Outlines, conception is far more pleasurable than “carrying [the children] to fruition.” Sadly, “there’s a high infant mortality rate among Broad Outlines—they often fall prey to Nonstarters.” "Bestiary of Intelligence Writing" - CIA |
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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
On 2014-10-30, Don Bruder wrote:
In article , "PAS" wrote: "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... "PAS" wrote: "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message Actually, you're the one who's wrong. The words "You grant..." and "...right to use..." are all thats required to legally allow them (Any Well, not quite. It depends on the words around those phrases as to what it is you grant them. For example you could simply grant them the right to store your photos on their computer and the right to make backups of that storage. Or you could grant them the exclusive right to sell your photos, and right to use could equally be modified. "them", be it Facebook, SmugMug, Flickr, or whomever) to do *ANYTHING THEY WANT* with whatever image you hand them. While they may (and in the No it gives them the rights that you enumerate. If you grant them the right to do anything, then yes, they have the right to do anything. case of SmugMug, it looks as though they do) go on to try to "explain" what they're planning to do, that explanation *IS NOT* a restriction on what they *MAY* do, should they decide they want to. Well, that may or may not be true. Since it is they that impose the agreement, a court will in general interpret it in the most restrictive way for them, since they were the ones that would have had the opportunity to spell out the details. Those examples are somewhat restrictive. Put another way, when you upload an image to some site with a user agreement that contains similarly worded terms that don't *SPECIFICALLY* prohibit them doing pick a something with your image, then you've just handed them the rights to do anything they might care to do with it. Not really. It is to an extent up to them to specify what their agreement covers. But it is true that many are pretty broad. *ANYTHING*. If you don't like that fact, don't upload an image to them. That's really your only option, since no for-profit outfit is going to (or more accurately, their lawyers won't *LET* them) close the door on any possibility of exploiting anything they can get their hands on to make a buck off it. On the other hand, it's *POSSIBLE* that someone with deep enough pockets may some day manage to bring a case that blows such crap out of the water - A while back, a precedent was set that effectively shot holes in so-called "shrink-wrap licensing" - Licenses that basically say "by opening the package, you agree to whatever we damn well please, and if you don't like that, tough ****". Website TOS statements are a form of of SWL, at least in my non-lawyerly opinion. The problem is this: Do *YOU* have what's needed (in terms of time, money, lawyers, etc, etc, etc) to chase this to a conclusion that stops websites form doing such things? |
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On 10/29/2014 2:14 AM, A. Beck. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:17:34 +0000, Sandman wrote: Again, this isn't "intensly personal information" if it requires tons of assumptions. What if I posted an ad in Craigslist, and a lovely lady sends me a picture, which she took from her living room. Now, I know where she lives. That's pretty personal. If the photo was a response to your ad, eventually you would have to know where she lived. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: What if I posted an ad in Craigslist, and a lovely lady sends me a picture, which she took from her living room. Now, I know where she lives. That's pretty personal. If the photo was a response to your ad, eventually you would have to know where she lived. only for the person buying the item, not everyone. |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:22:10 -0400, PeterN wrote:
If the photo was a response to your ad, eventually you would have to know where she lived. Not really. We could meet at a Starbucks. But, I'm working on removing all EXIF information from all photos as we speak ... |
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How much EXIF information is tracked by photo sharing sites?
On 2014-10-30, PAS wrote:
"Lewis" wrote in message ... Okay, so one time? In band camp? PAS was all, like: "Don Bruder" wrote in message ... In article , "PAS" wrote: When you grant a right to someone, the stated reasons are meaningless, the RIGHT has been granted. For example, consider these two statements: "A durable power of attorney is granted to ____ from ___. In order to complete financial instruments and execute loan paperwork fro loan #8912341 a power of attorney is required." "A limited power of attorney is granted to ____ from ___ for the sole purpose of completing financial instruments and executing loan paperwork for the loan #8912341 describe herein." The first one allows the "granted to" to do *anything* on your behalf, including marry you to a third person (or divorce you from your spouse), sell or buy property in your name, enter into any and all contracts, and even plead guilty to a crime. To a non-lawyer, they seem to say the same thing. Are you a lawyer? SmugMug sets the terms of use that a customer agrees to, what court would allow them to expand on what they specifically state you are licensing them to do which is display your images on their site and nothing more than that? It is true that either examples or reasons do not necessarily limit the rights granted. But it could well be used by the courts to limit those rights if that example was written by the party that set the terms of the contract. However, terms could be used which make it clear that the example itself does not limit the breadth of the rights granted. But that could be dependent of the specific judge. |
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