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It's he The Nikon 750
In article 2014091412105260873-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote: On 2014-09-14 17:25:30 +0000, nospam said: In article 2014091410095395608-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote: Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S. I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/ Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine. how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s? Mainly at air shows. because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000) in every way. the buffer is the only limitation. ...and that is a consideration. You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old machine for future use! -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography |
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On 2014-09-14 19:31:14 +0000, android said:
In article 2014091412105260873-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-09-14 17:25:30 +0000, nospam said: In article 2014091410095395608-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote: Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S. I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/ Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine. how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s? Mainly at air shows. because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000) in every way. the buffer is the only limitation. ...and that is a consideration. You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old machine for future use! Something to think about. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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It's he The Nikon 750
In article 2014091412401934707-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote: On 2014-09-14 19:31:14 +0000, android said: In article 2014091412105260873-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-09-14 17:25:30 +0000, nospam said: In article 2014091410095395608-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote: Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S. I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/ Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine. how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s? Mainly at air shows. because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000) in every way. the buffer is the only limitation. ...and that is a consideration. You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old machine for future use! Something to think about. It sure is Sir! That's what I would consider, searching through my heart if was sunk into the half frame format. I surely would!!! ;-) -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography |
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On 14/09/2014 18:09, Savageduck wrote:
[] Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S. I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/ Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine. Lack of 10:1 zoom would be a deal-breaker for me with that camera, and the micro-four-thirds gives yet more size reduction. But would any mirrorless camera be fast enough for motor racing or air-show shots? -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On 2014-09-15 05:50:53 +0000, David Taylor
said: On 14/09/2014 18:09, Savageduck wrote: [] Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S. I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/ Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine. Lack of 10:1 zoom would be a deal-breaker for me with that camera, and the micro-four-thirds gives yet more size reduction. But would any mirrorless camera be fast enough for motor racing or air-show shots? What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera? The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3. Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of 7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be workable in action situations on the track, or at an air show. While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/ The kit lens is an 18-55mm. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/ However, the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/ Add to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/ From what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 15/09/2014 07:40, Savageduck wrote:
[] What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera? The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3. Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of 7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be workable in action situations on the track, or at an air show. While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/ The kit lens is an 18-55mm. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/ However, the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/ Add to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/ From what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with. What I wrote could have been better phrased, that MFT would give even more size and weight reduction. I'm currently using Panasonic GX7 with their 10:1 zoom, which weighs just 265 grams. The Nikon 18-200 mm was 560 grams. Wide-angle I have the very compact Olympus 9-18 (155 grams), compared to my Tamron10-24 (406 grams). The size those lenses are, they can easily fit into the space occupied in my gadget bag by the DSLR with the 18-200. I only need to take one lens round, although as the 9-18 is so small and light I now mostly carry that round as well. Having two lens suppliers is nice, but I wish there were more. But my reservation with mirrorless cameras is the time taken to return to viewing after a shot is taken. At the moment, as supplied, that's a second or two, making any rapid action shooting difficult, if not impossible. I suspect I'm missing a setting which stops the review of the shot after taking, but it may be a point with the Fuji as well. I suggest getting a demonstration. Update: I just discovered that the default is a 2-second review period, so I just disabled that and it's much better, but still more of a gap before the viewfinder image reappears than with the DSLR. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On 2014-09-15 07:22:04 +0000, David Taylor
said: On 15/09/2014 07:40, Savageduck wrote: [] What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera? The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3. Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of 7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be workable in action situations on the track, or at an air show. While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/ The kit lens is an 18-55mm. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/ However, the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/ Add to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/ From what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with. What I wrote could have been better phrased, that MFT would give even more size and weight reduction. I'm currently using Panasonic GX7 with their 10:1 zoom, which weighs just 265 grams. The Nikon 18-200 mm was 560 grams. Wide-angle I have the very compact Olympus 9-18 (155 grams), compared to my Tamron10-24 (406 grams). The size those lenses are, they can easily fit into the space occupied in my gadget bag by the DSLR with the 18-200. I only need to take one lens round, although as the 9-18 is so small and light I now mostly carry that round as well. Having two lens suppliers is nice, but I wish there were more. I was looking to lighten my DSLR load, and I figure I can do that with the X-E2 and easily carry an extra lens or two in a pocket. That seems better for some travel and/or strolling around shooting.I will keep my DSLR kit for those times I want to pack the car and go, and have a wider choice of goodies to work with. But my reservation with mirrorless cameras is the time taken to return to viewing after a shot is taken. At the moment, as supplied, that's a second or two, making any rapid action shooting difficult, if not impossible. I suspect I'm missing a setting which stops the review of the shot after taking, but it may be a point with the Fuji as well. I suggest getting a demonstration. Update: I just discovered that the default is a 2-second review period, so I just disabled that and it's much better, but still more of a gap before the viewfinder image reappears than with the DSLR. I read that in continuous mode the X-E2 can give you a true 7fps with no review lag issues. One can only hope that isn't hype. You might find some of this reading interesting. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/index.html#section01 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 15/09/2014 08:50, Savageduck wrote:
[] I read that in continuous mode the X-E2 can give you a true 7fps with no review lag issues. One can only hope that isn't hype. You might find some of this reading interesting. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/index.html#section01 Yes, that looks good, but I would still suggest a dealer demonstration so that you can see what it feels like at 7 fps. I'm not giving up my DSLR either, but as I don't have a car, I can see its usage out in the field being rather limited now. I did also get a 20/1.7 pancake (40 f/3.4 full frame equivalent) for night-time and "compact camera mode" outings... -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On 2014-09-15 09:08:55 +0000, "J. Clarke" said:
In article 2014091500500028645-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, says... On 2014-09-15 07:22:04 +0000, David Taylor said: On 15/09/2014 07:40, Savageduck wrote: [] What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera? The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3. Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of 7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be workable in action situations on the track, or at an air show. While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/ The kit lens is an 18-55mm. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/ However, the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/ Add to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/ From what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with. What I wrote could have been better phrased, that MFT would give even more size and weight reduction. I'm currently using Panasonic GX7 with their 10:1 zoom, which weighs just 265 grams. The Nikon 18-200 mm was 560 grams. Wide-angle I have the very compact Olympus 9-18 (155 grams), compared to my Tamron10-24 (406 grams). The size those lenses are, they can easily fit into the space occupied in my gadget bag by the DSLR with the 18-200. I only need to take one lens round, although as the 9-18 is so small and light I now mostly carry that round as well. Having two lens suppliers is nice, but I wish there were more. I was looking to lighten my DSLR load, and I figure I can do that with the X-E2 and easily carry an extra lens or two in a pocket. That seems better for some travel and/or strolling around shooting.I will keep my DSLR kit for those times I want to pack the car and go, and have a wider choice of goodies to work with. Have you considered a Canon 100D? It's only 50 grams heavier than the Fuji (still less than half the weight of your 300DS), and being a Canon DSLR it supports pretty much the full Canon system. Downside from your viewpoint would be the 4FPS frame rate, I believe. Naah! If I was going to get another DSLR body eight now it would probably be a D7100 as all I would need is a body. For now I can tolerate the weight of the D300S. I look at the X-E2 as an upgrade to my G11 rather than a DSLR replacement. Now if I want to lighten my load for any particular reason, I grab my G11. However, good as it is for a compact, it has its limitations and the X-E2 removes those limitations. For me anyway. As much as I like the idea of a FF camera, I don’t need, or desire a 36MP camera I would be quite happy with something in the 16-24MP range. That more than anything is a reason I am not considering a D800/D800E/D810. I would love to afford or be able to justify a D4. But my reservation with mirrorless cameras is the time taken to return to viewing after a shot is taken. At the moment, as supplied, that's a second or two, making any rapid action shooting difficult, if not impossible. I suspect I'm missing a setting which stops the review of the shot after taking, but it may be a point with the Fuji as well. I suggest getting a demonstration. Update: I just discovered that the default is a 2-second review period, so I just disabled that and it's much better, but still more of a gap before the viewfinder image reappears than with the DSLR. I read that in continuous mode the X-E2 can give you a true 7fps with no review lag issues. One can only hope that isn't hype. You might find some of this reading interesting. http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/index.html#section01 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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