Portrait of the average American voter...

"Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message
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Works every time, too. During the sixties, we feared communists, and were
told that due to "stepping stone theory" we had to fight them overseas or
we'd have to fight them here. As it turns out, the government was totally
full of ****, as they are now. Fear mongering works, and that's why
imbeciles like Bush and Rove gain power.


It was a Republican -- Dwight Eisenhower -- who
warned of the dangers of the military-industrial complex.
Here's one of my favorites:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft
from those who hunger and are not fed, those who
are cold and are not clothed. "


It's hard to imagine -- a Republican president said that.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft
from those who hunger and are not fed, those who
are cold and are not clothed. "


It's hard to imagine -- a Republican president said that.


It's fu*king unbelievable considering the present climate Republicans have
created.
It does demonstrate a massive erosion of the values of earlier Republicans
in comparison to the current crop.

"rafe b" wrote in message
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"Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message
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Works every time, too. During the sixties, we feared communists, and were
told that due to "stepping stone theory" we had to fight them overseas or
we'd have to fight them here. As it turns out, the government was totally
full of ****, as they are now. Fear mongering works, and that's why
imbeciles like Bush and Rove gain power.


It was a Republican -- Dwight Eisenhower -- who
warned of the dangers of the military-industrial complex.
Here's one of my favorites:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft
from those who hunger and are not fed, those who
are cold and are not clothed. "


It's hard to imagine -- a Republican president said that.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

rafe b wrote:
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:b615h.11349

And the Democrat's PLAN offered as alternative was....... what again??


Before 11/7/2006 there was no point in the Dems offering a
plan. And besides, nobody asked their opinion. The majority
party spared no effort to shut them out of the decision-
making process, at every juncture and at every level.


Just yesterday our fearless leader said he was open to ideas on Iraq.

"I'm open to any idea or suggestion that will help us achieve our
goals of defeating the terrorists and ensuring that Iraq's democratic
government succeeds," he told reporters in the Rose Garden at the White
House.

That's a good sign, I suppose, but also kinda scary. At least he
finally admits that he doesn't have a clue. Now maybe some of his
lackies like PW will admit it as well.

Since Dumbya is taking suggestions, here's a couple of mine for Bush:
1. Fire Cheney and replace him with Bill Clinton.
2. Resign.

rafe b wrote:
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:b615h.11349

And the Democrat's PLAN offered as alternative was....... what
again??


Before 11/7/2006 there was no point in the Dems offering a
plan. And besides, nobody asked their opinion. The majority
party spared no effort to shut them out of the decision-
making process, at every juncture and at every level.

In other words... They had no plan.
If they had an alternative plan, we'd have heard it.

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Annika1980 wrote:
rafe b wrote:
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:b615h.11349

And the Democrat's PLAN offered as alternative was....... what
again??


Before 11/7/2006 there was no point in the Dems offering a
plan. And besides, nobody asked their opinion. The majority
party spared no effort to shut them out of the decision-
making process, at every juncture and at every level.


Just yesterday our fearless leader said he was open to ideas on Iraq.

"I'm open to any idea or suggestion that will help us achieve our
goals of defeating the terrorists and ensuring that Iraq's democratic
government succeeds," he told reporters in the Rose Garden at the
White House.

That's a good sign, I suppose, but also kinda scary. At least he
finally admits that he doesn't have a clue. Now maybe some of his
lackies like PW will admit it as well.

He's said that many many times.
The only "suggestions" made by the Dems have been insightful "plans" that
basically amount to, "This sucks."
-But when asked what they'd SPECIFICALLY do...they offered nothing.
Nothing.
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Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

Mark² lowest even number here wrote:
That's a good sign, I suppose, but also kinda scary. At least he
finally admits that he doesn't have a clue. Now maybe some of his
lackies like PW will admit it as well.

He's said that many many times.
The only "suggestions" made by the Dems have been insightful "plans" that
basically amount to, "This sucks."
-But when asked what they'd SPECIFICALLY do...they offered nothing.
Nothing.

Not true. Joe Biden has a plan. Harold Ford has a plan. Murtha has a
plan.
Bush's problem is that he listens to nobody but Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
and Cheney.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:47:43 -0800, "William Graham"
wrote:


Karl Roves "fear and smear" campaign caught you... hook, line and
sinker.

Where's your Karl Rove / Lee A****er scum tactics NOW

The GOP scum tactics worked in the TN Senate race, but Rove can't take
credit for that.
That was Ken Mehlmann's deal. You know, the gay head of the RNC.

Annika1980 wrote:
Mark² lowest even number here wrote:
That's a good sign, I suppose, but also kinda scary. At least he
finally admits that he doesn't have a clue. Now maybe some of his
lackies like PW will admit it as well.

He's said that many many times.
The only "suggestions" made by the Dems have been insightful "plans"
that basically amount to, "This sucks."
-But when asked what they'd SPECIFICALLY do...they offered nothing.
Nothing.

Not true. Joe Biden has a plan. Harold Ford has a plan. Murtha has a
plan.

Can you please convey those specific plans? -Because I've listened to both
those men many times, and they utterly failed to convey one.

Bush's problem is that he listens to nobody but Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
and Cheney.

Perhaps.

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Bush's problem is that he listens to nobody but Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,and
Cheney.

and Kissinger unofficially.

"Annika1980" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark² lowest even number here wrote:
That's a good sign, I suppose, but also kinda scary. At least he
finally admits that he doesn't have a clue. Now maybe some of his
lackies like PW will admit it as well.

He's said that many many times.
The only "suggestions" made by the Dems have been insightful "plans" that
basically amount to, "This sucks."
-But when asked what they'd SPECIFICALLY do...they offered nothing.
Nothing.

Not true. Joe Biden has a plan. Harold Ford has a plan. Murtha has a
plan.
Bush's problem is that he listens to nobody but Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
and Cheney.

"Mark²" wrote:

Walter Banks wrote:


On these issues it is unlikely the Democrats would do worse. I don't
belong to any political party. From the outside looking in its a mess
that needs fixing.

And the Democrat's PLAN offered as alternative was....... what again??

On Iraq Joe Biden, Harold Ford, Jim Webb, Murtha
On Heath Care Hillary Clinton
On US Debt Bill Clinton Remember fiscal responsibility where
a Government spends less than it takes in.

There has been plenty of good alternatives offered shouting over their
voices doesn't mean they haven't spoken and offered plenty of good
ideas that are not "cut and run"

Iraq goal du jour

What is it again that the US hopes to accomplish in Iraq?
What has been done?
What is left to do?